Question for Viking fans

Both sides are at fault. Favre held the entire organization hostage the last few years there. I would argue it's harder to build a team not knowing who your starting QB is going to be the entire offseason, and what veteran leadership you may or may not have.


or Favre just was not sure he wanted to work with Thompson who refused to get help right away (Moss).

but it is all moot.

TT and MM will both be footnotes in Packer history in 5 years.
 
or Favre just was not sure he wanted to work with Thompson who refused to get help right away (Moss).

You're a history major but your entire argument is conjecture?!?

You've made your position on his Packer-parting abundently clear; we get it - you don't like Ted or Mike. I'm not a big fan either, but the situation was never as simple as you'd like to make it. What is simple is that he's been a great influence on the Vikings and he's bending over backwards to fit in. Good for him; his performance both on and off the field is much improved...
 
or Favre just was not sure he wanted to work with Thompson who refused to get help right away (Moss).

but it is all moot.

TT and MM will both be footnotes in Packer history in 5 years.

And what did Favre do when he came back that same year? He said during training camp that it was his most talented team he had been a part of. They went 13-3.
 
One side note... how did the Vikings get this November schedule?

Play Sunday the 1st in GB, but then a bye week and 3 straight home games? Don't have to leave the state of MN the entire month?
 
One side note... how did the Vikings get this November schedule?

Play Sunday the 1st in GB, but then a bye week and 3 straight home games? Don't have to leave the state of MN the entire month?


Same reason 5 out of their first 8 were on the road. Not everybody's schedule can be perfectly balanced.
 
You're a history major but your entire argument is conjecture?!?

You've made your position on his Packer-parting abundently clear; we get it - you don't like Ted or Mike. I'm not a big fan either, but the situation was never as simple as you'd like to make it. What is simple is that he's been a great influence on the Vikings and he's bending over backwards to fit in. Good for him; his performance both on and off the field is much improved...


we agree to disagree no problem...

I think one can take either side and state that it is simple.

I just choose to believe Favre and the 16 years he gave to the organization.
 
I was certainly not sold on Favre, but willing to take him, if for no other reason than to see Pack fans freak out. I was also really wanting to see what Sage could do. Oh well, it probably wasn't getting the Vikes to 10-1, sorry Sage.

If whoever taught Tiki Barber not to fumble would please fly to Minny and teach the same to AD I will be firmly on the superbowl bandwagon (I may be anyway but I would REALLY like to see him keep the ball off of the ground).

I may have to cut the front of my hair off to honor Allen with a nice mullet! He's a beast.
 
if for no other reason than to see Pack fans freak out.

And therein lies the greatest disservice Favre did Packer Fans; as you can tell from this thread, the hard-core fan-base is still greatly divided. Fans of NFC Rival Franchises (Vikings, Bears, Cowboys) can make merry with the situation, but it's not funny to long-time Packer fans...:no:
 
Favre is playing like he's 28...not 40. It's crazy.

If the Viking offensive line can continue to keep him upright, who knows how long this guy can play.

Anyone see the rocket he launched at the wealthy receiver that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time yesterday? The pass went incomplete because the ball was moving so fast, the receiver had no time to get his hands up and it pelted him in the chest. Favre still has it, period.

As the top-tier posters nowadays would say, "fixed it for you"!
 
And therein lies the greatest disservice Favre did Packer Fans; as you can tell from this thread, the hard-core fan-base is still greatly divided. Fans of NFC Rival Franchises (Vikings, Bears, Cowboys) can make merry with the situation, but it's not funny to long-time Packer fans...:no:

It is a business from both sides...and a 'star' driven entity.

Some people put way too much heart into the pro team they follow.


But I understand the split...my family in WI is divided right down the center.
 
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You're a history major but your entire argument is conjecture?!?

You've made your position on his Packer-parting abundently clear; we get it - you don't like Ted or Mike. I'm not a big fan either, but the situation was never as simple as you'd like to make it. What is simple is that he's been a great influence on the Vikings and he's bending over backwards to fit in. Good for him; his performance both on and off the field is much improved...

In what way has Favre bent over backwards in Minnesota? I have not seen or heard of him doing anything different than in past years. He's fitting in perfectly because the Vikings are winning.

Say for example, Favre had the same exact stats/performance but the Viking defense was poor. There have been some 2nd half games where it looked to be a blowout and the defense collapsed, the offense had to save the day. Mark those down as losses because the defense collapse was worse and they lose a couple others because of defense.

I'd bet people would be ripping on Favre for losing the games and talking about how he's not fitting in. It's all about winning.

And therein lies the greatest disservice Favre did Packer Fans; as you can tell from this thread, the hard-core fan-base is still greatly divided. Fans of NFC Rival Franchises (Vikings, Bears, Cowboys) can make merry with the situation, but it's not funny to long-time Packer fans...:no:

See, I don't see this as a disservice to Packer fans at all. Obviously, I'm a Cowboy fan. Emmitt Smith was no longer wanted by Dallas and went to the rival Cardinal team. Granted, that team was not very good (IMO, Emmitt was a tip of the iceberg for that organization adopting a leadership first mentality) but I didn't see it as a disservice to Cowboy fans/players at all. Dallas said "thanks, but we're done" and Emmitt wanted to play. Arizona wanted him. Done deal.

Minnesota is a perfect fit. Good defense. Solid offensive line. Great running back. Playmaking receivers that need a playmaking quarterback. Gets to play at minimum half of his games indoors. And yes, an added benefit is facing Ted twice a year.

But face it Packer fans, it's not all about you. He wants to play, a great team gave him an opportunity to do so and become one of the leading contenders to at least reach the Super Bowl. Pretty simple to me.

Reminds me of a kid that throws out an old toy Sunday night and then cries when the garbage man comes to get it Monday morning, crying foul.

As the top-tier posters nowadays would say, "fixed it for you"!

Amused.
 
I guess a wins a win but i can just hear it from my packer friends if we win the SB wow

and by the way

I have tickets to the Chuck Foreman & Minnesota Vikings Alumni vs. Iowa Army Reserve Career Counselors Team. Its a Celebrity basketball game taking place Feb 12th @ AIB Gym in Des Moines. Its a charity event for the FBC math and science academy. Chuck and other Viking Alumni will sign free autographs and chuck will speak at halftime. Its $25 for adults and $13 for Childern.

If interested email me @ [email protected]
 
Oh...and I think Packer fans/players can shut up over their whining about Favre calling this team the best he's ever played on. I firmly believe it to be fact. Even if this team does not win the title, they're better than any of the Packer teams from the 90s. Rice and Harvin are deadly. The duo of Peterson and Taylor is something I simply would not want to face. They rank in the top 10 defensively. Best kick returner based on average yards per return...5th best punt returner.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. You can't say that any team, regardless of how they looked in the regular season, is better than a team that won the Super Bowl.

I was listening to some of the Viking postgame show last night (not pre-empted for ISU womens basketball!), and the two guys that host were comparing this team to the 1998 team that blew through the league and gagged in the playoffs.

They're peaking at the right time.
 
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. You can't say that any team, regardless of how they looked in the regular season, is better than a team that won the Super Bowl.

I was listening to some of the Viking postgame show last night (not pre-empted for ISU womens basketball!), and the two guys that host were comparing this team to the 1998 team that blew through the league and gagged in the playoffs.

They're peaking at the right time.

+1 See my earlier post comparing them to the '96 team.

Watching the Saints game right now. What a match-up it would be against the Vikings, playmakers all over the place.