Possible candidates for ISU's open OC position...

[Clone96]

What is Steve Loney up to these days?

OL coach for the Tampa Bay Bucs

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Steve Loney

 

[SpokaneCY]

I dont get the obsession with sage.

Because most posters are too young to remember Dave Archer or Brett Culbertson or Blaise Bryant or any number of former ISU players....

 

[temperflare]

Charlie Fisher, QB coach at Penn St. Just resigned and/or was relieved.

Charlie Fisher - Penn State Football

Just adding to the speculation!

 

[cyrocksmypants]

What type of offense did we run back in Seneca's day? It could be a really interesting offense with Sage's passing background crossed with the current read option. Both should carry some pretty decent recruiting clout with their numerous NFL ties recruits may choose Iowa State because it may give them the best chance to get into the pros. I think this is one of the reasons Hoiberg has had so much success getting higher rated recruits because they know he can prepare them for the NBA and give the a chance to play on a top 25 team with National Attention

Hoiberg's time in the front office is what makes him ideal for players, not because he played in the pros. He has connections with pretty much every GM in the league and can probably at least put a bug in their ear about taking a look at his guys. Once Sage gets some experience in a front office of the NFL, then you can use the line of helping players get to the next step like Hoiberg does.

 

[Wesley]

Major Applewhite

 

[CapnCy]

Maybe, but...

Coach rant post game - YouTube



When he was at Missouri the rumor was he talked to his players like that.

His biggest success was with Chase Daniel at QB and a lot of people thought Daniel was the real offensive coordinator at the time. Christiensen and the rest of Pinkel's staff learned the spread after getting beat twice by Urban Meyer's Bowling Green team. They went to Ohio and met with members of Meyer's staff.

Not sure he would be a good fit at ISU.

But after watching the video, appears he has a strong grasp on ethical standards.

 

[Wally86]

Sage for graduate assistant. That would be a high value proposition.

 

[Die4Cy]

Major Applewhite

This dude is aging faster than Father Time. I'd hire him, but I'd be afraid he'd turn 80 by the time spring football starts.

 

[Acylum]

I'm want a coach that will direct the offense for several years. I don't want a coach to come in, make an impact and then leave. ISU would potentially be right back in the same spot its at now. Lots of people on here are making the claim that CPR can not make a mistake in hiring the next OC because so much is at stake (like ISU has become Texas or Oklahoma all of a sudden). This doesn't have to be an out of the park hire that will lead to a guy getting hired away after a few years. If ISU had a middle of the back ranking in yards and scoring this past year the record would be at 6-6 and more likely IMO better. I don't want an O'Keefe either but I think that was more Ferentz than anything else.

If CPR has a list of 3 or 4 guys from outside the program and can't get them here, then promote Coach K or Sturdy.

I'm trying to find something in there I agree with. I can't. Just hire the best guy you can get and worry about possibly having to replace him when and if that time comes. You're almost saying hire somebody that sucks, but doesn't suck too much.

 

[Stormin]

I'm want a coach that will direct the offense for several years. I don't want a coach to come in, make an impact and then leave. ISU would potentially be right back in the same spot its at now. Lots of people on here are making the claim that CPR can not make a mistake in hiring the next OC because so much is at stake (like ISU has become Texas or Oklahoma all of a sudden). This doesn't have to be an out of the park hire that will lead to a guy getting hired away after a few years. If ISU had a middle of the back ranking in yards and scoring this past year the record would be at 6-6 and more likely IMO better. I don't want an O'Keefe either but I think that was more Ferentz than anything else.

If CPR has a list of 3 or 4 guys from outside the program and can't get them here, then promote Coach K or Sturdy.

There is no guarantee that anyone we hire is going to stay if they have great success. And that includes Coach K or Sturdy.

The best thing to do is hire the best possible candidate for OC and hope they have great success and then either worry about keeping them later.........or hire another great OC after they leave.

I am more concerned about the OC and how he does over the next few years rather than worrying about whether he would leave down the road. And I am more concerned over whether that OC would suck and we would want them to leave.

 

[Cyclophile1]

I'm trying to find something in there I agree with. I can't. Just hire the best guy you can get and worry about possibly having to replace him when and if that time comes. You're almost saying hire somebody that sucks, but doesn't suck too much.

I want the kind of guy who teams are interested in him for head coaching jobs. THAT is exactly the kind of guy you want to hire, because it means he's damn good. If and when he leaves for a head coaching gig, you hire the same type of guy.

 

[Dandy]

Sage for graduate assistant. That would be a high value proposition.

Is that even possible?

 

[snowcraig2.0]

Might be some competition for Christensen.

Florida offensive coordinator candidates: The early, exhaustive guide - Alligator Army

 

[CapnCy]

Sage for graduate assistant. That would be a high value proposition.

I wonder if at age 35, Sage wants to deal with papers, lectures, student fees, etc? :unsure:

 

[DBQR4CY]

ISU isn't a blue blood school. How many times can ISU just hire the next guy and know they have made a great choice? ISU doesn't have the recruits that allows OC's just to come walking in and have a good/great O. ISU just can't keep plugging OC's in and at the worst be just below average. Top notch guys are not lining up every year to get a shot at running ISU's O.

I want ISU to be able to hire a guy that will at least be here long enough to develop a system where another one of his coaches could step in and become the next OC. That wasn't the case with Herrmen. I just don't want a good 2-3 year run and then be right back in the same place. 2-3 years will only get ISU to 7 and maybe 8 win seasons. I want a guy around long enough not only to get the program to the next step, but in position to take the next one.

 

[Stormin]

ISU isn't a blue blood school. How many times can ISU just hire the next guy and know they have made a great choice? ISU doesn't have the recruits that allows OC's just to come walking in and have a good/great O. ISU just can't keep plugging OC's in and at the worst be just below average. Top notch guys are not lining up every year to get a shot at running ISU's O.

I want ISU to be able to hire a guy that will at least be here long enough to develop a system where another one of his coaches could step in and become the next OC. That wasn't the case with Herrmen. I just don't want a good 2-3 year run and then be right back in the same place. 2-3 years will only get ISU to 7 and maybe 8 win seasons. I want a guy around long enough not only to get the program to the next step, but in position to take the next one.

If in 2-3 years we are getting 8 wins that would not be too bad considering our schedule. If our new OC would leave because we had great success then that would mean we HAD great success. IMO, that would be a good thing.

You sound like a guy who probably dated a homely girl or even married someone homely and drab because you were afraid of "over marrying". Better to have the best than to just settle. That is my opinion. I am not fearful because ISU is a great place and maybe just maybe we will get that person that is a great hire and may stay here longer than you think because they love it at ISU and will only leave if they get their dream job. You hire the best candidate period. Don't worry that others may want them. Others wanting them is a good thing IMO.

 

[DBQR4CY]

If in 2-3 years we are getting 8 wins that would not be too bad considering our schedule. If our new OC would leave because we had great success then that would mean we HAD great success. IMO, that would be a good thing.

You sound like a guy who probably dated a homely girl or even married someone homely and drab because you were afraid of "over marrying". Better to have the best than to just settle. That is my opinion. I am not fearful because ISU is a great place and maybe just maybe we will get that person that is a great hire and may stay here longer than you think because they love it at ISU and will only leave if they get their dream job. You hire the best candidate period. Don't worry that others may want them. Others wanting them is a good thing IMO.

I want ISU to be able to take the next step and then be set up to be able to take the next one when that OC leaves. I don't want another Chizik. People on here seem to have a short memory about how that was a "program changer" hire. I don't want a name and make a splash on the day they're hired, I want the splash to come at the end of the season when ISU ends up with a winning record and a quality offense that allows it to compete with most other schools.

 

[cyclone13]

Major Applewhite

Another person with a baggage: improper relationship with student-trainer in the past. But I'm also for a second chance.
And there's no chance he leaves Austin unless Brown is gone or he gets a HC job.

 

[Stormin]

I want ISU to be able to take the next step and then be set up to be able to take the next one when that OC leaves. I don't want another Chizik. People on here seem to have a short memory about how that was a "program changer" hire. I don't want a name and make a splash on the day they're hired, I want the splash to come at the end of the season when ISU ends up with a winning record and a quality offense that allows it to compete with most other schools.

So we both want results. Great. The big problem with Chizik is that he bombed.....terribly. And then he bailed on us because he was given a lifeline by Auburn from our sinking ship which Chizik helped to sink.

The sad part is that we had other nomads in that group of candidates that were actually better...but probably would have bailed on us if they would have succeeded. Most prominent were Brian Kelly and Jim Harbaugh. I really was hoping for either of them. And think of it now IF we had gotten Jim Harbaugh and he had the success he had at Stanford and then had gone to the pros. Think of the publicity we would continue to get from the announcers continuing to say about the former coach from Iowa State who had great success there.

I want a good solid candidate and have said that I really like Dave Schramm. Good solid OC candidate with experience and success. Or someone like Christensen......another good solid OC candidate with experience and success. I don't want Mangino.....who IMO would get more publicity....but be more of what you are describing. And a guy who obviously would be using ISU as a means to resurrect his own coaching career.

 

[cyclone13]

Since we're Iowa State, we can't afford to be picky. Pick the best candidate and hopefully he's successful.