Outdoors with masks...according to the science the spread would be essentially zero.
Science only matters when it fits certain agendas. How dare you try to use logic.
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Outdoors with masks...according to the science the spread would be essentially zero.
Good god, the reactions from both sides of the covid debate over this letter are way over the top. So many of you have completely lost the ability to discuss this issue in a rational way.
Jamie seems committed to have no fans for the entire season which seems pretty stupid. Reassess in a few weeks.
I can't understand the resistance to transparency. What is lost by just putting it out on the table what the likely ramifications are? Juxtapose that against U of I having Barta call a surprise meeting and cancel a bunch of sports.
There's nothing whiney about it. The decision was made not to have fans, and that decision has implications. He's outlining the implications.
It should, I own one of the dance competitions and I rent Stephens 4 times a year.I know they do a lot of dance competitions and vocal stuff in there. Not sure if it brings in revenue?
It should, I own one of the dance competitions and I rent Stephens 4 times a year.
It turns out your decisions affect other people. Large events are a much higher risk to increase the community spread that ends up affecting people who weren't even there. That is why in a pandemic we must avoid these activities, more so when they are not essential activities. This isn't that hard of a concept.
sacrificing some non-essential things is how we get to live a more normal life in many other ways
I have 4 weekends scheduled to rent Stephens next spring and summer for my business I own, a dance competition. We are hurting and looking forward to a better Spring in 2021. This news is an absolute gut punch for my business and all the young children that take part in my events. Nearly 3000 kids over these 4 events/weekends at Stephens alone.I'm sure they do, but I guess that's my point.. there's no way that stuff is happening this year, whether there's money to run the building or not. Maybe that's a wrong assumption on my part.
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ISU Athletics? Of course.
But you are discounting how valuable having sports, and more important successfull sports, is to the university in terms of enrollment numbers and overall name recognition if the university. Sports programs are worth FAR more than budget numbers in terms of advertising for your university.
It's of course important, and I never discounted that. First, ISU is still having football, and with cancellation by the Big 10 and PAC 12 regardless of whether there are fans in the stands, playing games at all will raise ISUS
Not discounting those things at all. The poster said this decision is losing the thing keeping ISU financially stable. That simply is not true at all. When you add in athletic vs non-athletic donations and research dollars athletics revenues are low single digit percentage of ISUs revenue.But you are discounting how valuable having sports, and more important successfull sports, is to the university in terms of enrollment numbers and overall name recognition of the university. Sports programs are worth FAR more than budget numbers in terms of advertising for your university.
SO YOU ARE THE PERSON WHO GAVE MY DAUGHTER THE CRAPPY MARKS FIVE YEARS AGO?????It should, I own one of the dance competitions and I rent Stephens 4 times a year.
Regroup?!?!?!? Don’t you understand we can’t have GROUPS!!!!!!Guys and gals, its going to be a beautiful night out there tonight. Have a drink, relax, and regroup. There's been some vile posts around here.
His letter provides "several" options, not all options being looked at.
It begs the question, why weren't all the options being looked at discussed? I don't pretend to have the answer but it does feel like the most controversial options were provided to generate a reaction.
Do you feel unsafe when you use the stage? Are they able to accomodate all your guests?It should, I own one of the dance competitions and I rent Stephens 4 times a year.
That's odd. I don't recall a superspreader event having occurred in the US via an outdoor event. ESPECIALLY one with mandatory mask usage seats assigned with social distancing in mind. Maybe you can enlighten us where this has occurred.
Hahah...that would be the judges I hiredSO YOU ARE THE PERSON WHO GAVE MY DAUGHTER THE CRAPPY MARKS FIVE YEARS AGO?????
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The no fans isn’t going to be a big deal in the long run for the entire university but it could have a potentially big impact on the AD. If the AD goes away the school is going to be in for a rude awakening for how important it is.Not discounting those things at all. The poster said this decade is losing the thing keeping ISU financially stable. That simply is not true at all. When you add in athletic vs non-athletic donations and research dollars athletics revenues are low single digit percentage of ISUs revenue.
Not to mention ISU is still playing football when others aren’t. ISUs profile will be raised this year even if games are TV only.
This does have a huge impact on Ames and the local economy. It will hurt ISU, but I wanted to clear up the misconception that not having fans in the stands is going to ruin ISU financially.
I had a large event there just this past July. Absolutely felt safe, we suggested masks when social distancing couldn't take place. Stephens is so large and has so much space it accommodated all the competitors and parents with no worries. The event lasts 40 hours over a Fri -Sat - Sun weekend. We see about 1000-1500 competitors and parent/spectators over that long period of time. A transient crowd. It was about 90% normal and very safe with masks and distancing protocols being the biggest overall difference. Life and live events can still happen IMO if we use some common sense. But that is completely lacking in todays world and we're up against a cancel at all cost crusade. It is so difficult to navigate as a business owner.Do you feel unsafe when you use the stage? Are they able to accomodate all your guests?