WHy do you think ISU would get boat raced without Tamin? They seem to be pretty good without him. When he comes back ISU may never lose again.
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WHy do you think ISU would get boat raced without Tamin? They seem to be pretty good without him. When he comes back ISU may never lose again.
ND hasn’t had much ever since Digger left. Been a long time.
Cyclonepride
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Sorry if already posted. We broke the format
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Players Era Festival to rethink format for 32-team event in '26
After promising to stick to the current format, Players Era Festival CEO Seth Berger told ESPN that the event will consider a new one when next year's field expands to 32 teams.
They had some good squads with Mike Brey.
Like the year we kicked their ass in the Tournament.
The loud whiners on social media are not a majority. They are just loud and relentless. And yes, typically people on the internet who aren’t being overly negative and searching for crap to complain about are in the minority on an Internet forum. Happy to be in the group who enjoyed this tourney.
We broke the BCS, might as well break this tooSorry if already posted. We broke the format
Players Era Festival to rethink format for 32-team event in '26
After promising to stick to the current format, Players Era Festival CEO Seth Berger told ESPN that the event will consider a new one when next year's field expands to 32 teams.
One other interesting thing about this tourney: beating 2 Big East teams and seeing other teams play multiples from another conference, etc. might help with clearer seeding in March because the comparisons might end up easier to make. This tourney may help a lot with that, especially in the future.
(honestly started typing this as 3 Big East teams, but that's the old days...)
(honestly started typing this as 3 Big East teams, but that's the old days...)
Cyclonepride
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The last part of this is the real win (quote from that article):We broke the BCS, might as well break this too
"Iowa State did not get the opportunity to earn additional NIL compensation despite an undefeated record and the best collection of wins in the field."
I saw someone defending this tourney system, because its like kids soccer tourneys. There are some issues with that.
First, they said one thing leading up to the start on how it was going to work, then at some point changed it. If they had clearly released the rules on their official page from the start and everyone could look at them there would not have been nearly the confusion. Instead they kept it vague and completely changed the rules that they told the media before the tourney.
Second, there is a huge difference between a U12 AAU soccer tourney and a NCAA D1 Basketball game. Especially when there is $Millions on the line. I mean just the amount of scoring in a basketball game vs a soccer game make the point differential questionable. Especially when that is the first tie breaker. But relying so heavily on that tie breaker when it means teams play for that much cash or not is ridiculous.
Third, then having no real plan for how to to make 3rd round matchups. I guess getting Syracuse made us look really good, but it is insane we didnt play another team like Alabama or Auburn or someone that actually had won a game. Even if that meant we would need to play a later game today or tomorrow.
Overall it was a good week for us but man this tournament needs to get some things figured out for next year especially with the increased size.
First, they said one thing leading up to the start on how it was going to work, then at some point changed it. If they had clearly released the rules on their official page from the start and everyone could look at them there would not have been nearly the confusion. Instead they kept it vague and completely changed the rules that they told the media before the tourney.
Second, there is a huge difference between a U12 AAU soccer tourney and a NCAA D1 Basketball game. Especially when there is $Millions on the line. I mean just the amount of scoring in a basketball game vs a soccer game make the point differential questionable. Especially when that is the first tie breaker. But relying so heavily on that tie breaker when it means teams play for that much cash or not is ridiculous.
Third, then having no real plan for how to to make 3rd round matchups. I guess getting Syracuse made us look really good, but it is insane we didnt play another team like Alabama or Auburn or someone that actually had won a game. Even if that meant we would need to play a later game today or tomorrow.
Overall it was a good week for us but man this tournament needs to get some things figured out for next year especially with the increased size.
Well, using THEIR criteria: if Gonzaga wins by less than 9 and either Kansas or Tenn win by less than 16, then Iowa State ends up as #1 in their final standings.
My only issue with the format is that it doesn’t adjust for strength of opponent. Beating St. John’s by 1 is better than ND by 10. Use a formula that takes into account who you beat as much as how much you beat them by.
I thought it would be a weighted "point system" where record, point dif, strength of opp, PF, PA and rank were all factored in. Not where they were their own criteria and were only considered as the evaluation laddered down the system.
Under a total weighted point system, there is no doubt we are top 4. Might still have been #3 with the dominant Michigan and Gonzaga games.
Stolen from Reddit. This is actually a great idea
It's the no-brainer way to do it - one Big 12 team per group of 4. Just like open wrestling tournaments, separating guys on the same team as long as possible.
The safety net would be to, as much as possible, place Big 12 teams in the same bracket if they only meet once in the conference season. That way you're not potentially playing Houston or Kansas 4 times in a year.
You are exactly right. Attach a value for the strength of the opponent. Say, make a victory over St. John is worth 1.5 points for every point you actually win by. However, this early in the season, it is very hard to place any value.
They actually had some really good teams with their last coach who retired a couple of years ago. Can't think of his name. They went to a few sweet 16's and an elite 8 like 10 years ago. But they've sucked ever since.
Why does anyone care where you technically place in this fake tourney. 3-0 with quality winds is all that matters. We were never destined to win it all.
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Sorry if already posted. We broke the format
Players Era Festival to rethink format for 32-team event in '26
After promising to stick to the current format, Players Era Festival CEO Seth Berger told ESPN that the event will consider a new one when next year's field expands to 32 teams.
In what way is seeding and playing brackets any less accurate/fair than fritzing around with silly (subjective, I know) human diddly equations like that used in this tournament?
Serious question, I'm open to be corrected.
In my opinion you go one of two ways with it the above one on Reddit or you go 8 4 team divisions one big 12 team in each to divide that best. 3 game round robin then you take winner from each for a single elimination 8 team bracket format with point differential being the determining factor of each division if they want to go nba league cup style with the tournament. Not perfect I know but would be fun
Cause it would’ve been fun to play Tennessee today rather than Syracuse? And why are you against ISU athletes getting more NIL money?
