Sorry, I was not referring to you with that. There has been one poster who has been linking newspaper articles.
Please accept my apologies for not clarifying that.
Open up the check book, Mr. Pollard
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Sorry, I was not referring to you with that. There has been one poster who has been linking newspaper articles.
Please accept my apologies for not clarifying that.
What did I say negative about the wrestling program? All I said was that it was shortsighted to cannibalize track & field/cross country to try to throw money at the wrestling program. I think more of ISU Wrestling than you will ever know.
In defense of Pollard, he met with Cael and asked what he wanted IIRC. Sounds like Cael had made up his mind. Not sure we were even given the chance to negotiate and get Cael back.
According to this link, Cael cites the abundance of talent within driving distance of Penn State. And talent that had a desire to wrestle closer to home. Cael had lost out on recruits for that very reason. And being at Penn State makes it an easy sell. Cael can pick and choose from immense talent who he wants. It is a slam dunk. With 4 straight national titles, it is hard to argue with.
http://www.pennstatewrestlingclub.org/content/read_news.php?id=372
I have been posting articles backing up what I have claimed. You have posted NOTHING. You have just made allegations against Pollard that are NOT supported by anything. Just your own beliefs.
NBA coaching is one of the worst jobs in all of sports. All the blame when the team loses and little credit when you win. The way the cap and max contracts are set up less desirable markets like Minn are at a real disadvantage, so jumping to the MBA for a job with a team like the wolves would be bad. Offering the same max contract vs a big market where opportunity for marketability is perceived to be much better is a challenge. There is also enough room on the cap that rose top teams can afford multiple franchise players while the rest are left to overpay. The NBA has been both subtly and not so subtly rigged for big market teams to have advantages.
As others have indicated Iowa State will never be able to match the money that the NBA will be willing to offer. All we can do is control our end of the equation. Personally, Fred should be making between 2.5 and 2.75 per year. That would place him 3rd to 4th in conference behind Bill Self and Rick Barnes. People have said it isn't all about the money with Fred. I doubt it is entirely about the money but I can also tell you that as a competitor it will not sit well with a person when they are the 7th highest paid coach in a conference that they consistently finish in the top 4. It just comes down to fairly compensating people for their performance.
And it clears hurdle #1...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...thletes-players-association-wins-case-at-nlrb
All of this talk about wrestling brings up something that I've been worried about, which is that college basketball will eventually be relegated to the same "niche" status as wrestling. I've seen some surveys and articles indicating that the rise in popularity of the NFL and college football has come at the expense of other sports (mostly baseball, but also college basketball).
Basketball is already a few rungs down the ladder compared to football in terms of revenue, emphasis, and popularity for most universities, and I worry that the gulf will just continue to grow with conference realignment, massive TV contracts, increasing capital expenditures, and so on.
Basketball is already a few rungs down the ladder compared to football in terms of revenue, emphasis, and popularity for most universities, and I worry that the gulf will just continue to grow with conference realignment, massive TV contracts, increasing capital expenditures, and so on.
Welcome to the first floor of the Willis Tower.
It is not something to consider in offering a contract to Fred. First, it is not going to win, and second, even if it did, the difference between paying your basketball coach $3 million vs $2 million would not matter.
Basketball will never become a niche sport, in my opinion. Wrestling is (and always has been) for several reasons. It completes with major sports for exposure, athletes, etc. Far more kids have played basketball than wrestling so it suffers from a small number of people with experience/understanding of it. It largely negates the entire female base. Basketball can be done on a playground in parks across the country.
An advantage basketball has over baseball (a sport that has decreased in popularity) is the constant stream of action. In addition, MLB has recognized the struggle with baseball's acceptance in large metropolitan areas because of the lack of diamonds and play areas. They require more space and upkeep than a basketball hoop.
Now, it may not rival football for popularity any time soon. But I don't think it will be regulated to niche sport status.
I have no idea on that. I do know that Cael's last contract extension signed a year ago or so pays him an annual salary of $175,000 for this year. Cael was making $137,000 when he left ISU. And supposedly got a small increase above that. IMO, the biggest impact on him leaving was the location of Penn State in fertile wrestling territory and the new $4 million Lorenzo Wrestling Complex that was built in 2006. i.e. Easier to win a National Championship.
I agree that it isn't going to be a consideration in paying Fred. However this affects ISU, it will also affect every other school. I simply posted the link in response to him saying it was overblown. To say this isn't a big development is a bit short-sighted.
Thanks, I need the optimism sometimes. Two other things that basketball has going for it are that it's played in winter when the opportunity cost of sitting inside and watching sports all day is lower than any other time of year, and that it has probably the most exciting, engaging postseason of any sport. I also wonder if people will start suffering from "football fatigue" in the next decade or two, now that the NFL is spreading their games out over more days of the week, the concussion debate continues, and conference realignment continues to kill rivalries.
It's also interesting that baseball is apparently struggling to gain acceptance in large metropolitan areas since it began as an urban game, played by kids in the streets with makeshift balls and wooden sticks.
