I can handle a bumpy 2016. Unless you're a blue blood, you're going to have an occasional off year. Fred's earned that much.
I still hope we go all in for next year though.
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I can handle a bumpy 2016. Unless you're a blue blood, you're going to have an occasional off year. Fred's earned that much.
I still hope we go all in for next year though.
Define great. Fred has proven his ability to build through significant losses every year. It would be silly to expect a top ten team going into 2016, but sillier to expect that we won't be highly competitive.
Why? Fred has shown he can reload when needed. Plus count me in as one that thinks Cooke will be a stud and Monte will be here in 2016.
Write it down. Fred takes this team back to the NCAA tourney in 2016-2017. He knows how to find talent, and build chemistry...and he has an offensive formula that will always be difficult to slow. We may see SOME drop off in 2016-2017, but this program is moving into reload rather than rebuild territory.
This year, immediately eligible transfers and top 25 high school recruits look at ISU and see that starting slots will be very hard to come by...even for a Cheick Diallo....next off season, there will clearly be some play-right-away slots for these kinds of players. THAT will result in Fred reeling in some big fish in both of those recruiting markets. Having Georges, Mckay, and Monte drafted by the NBA will only add to the appeal of playing for Fred.
Never doubt the Hoiberg...you have been warned.
This year, immediately eligible transfers and top 25 high school recruits look at ISU and see that starting slots will be very hard to come by...even for a Cheick Diallo....next off season, there will clearly be some play-right-away slots for these kinds of players. THAT will result in Fred reeling in some big fish in both of those recruiting markets. Having Georges, Mckay, and Monte drafted by the NBA will only add to the appeal of playing for Fred.
Never doubt the Hoiberg...you have been warned.
Many thought the 2013-14 team wouldn't struggle to make the tournament prior to the late signing of Kane. Even after that there were still alot of NIT predictions. Fred has a plan, I don't want to make predictions on the 16-17 roster until next summer when we see who is and isn't included. We have seven open spots for that team and I fully believe they will be filled with high quailty players by that time.
Also let's not for get that many current Transfers are looking for an immediate starting postion, thus why they left their last program. ISU's top 8 is more or less set for this year, a lot of the Grad Transfers wouldn't fit this year roster. ISU is looking at transfers and HS prosepect with 2 or preferably more eligibilty left to make the post-Niang transition. Adding N. Babb, quite possibly Noskowaik and another (Tillman, Aaron? Mistery Summer or Dec?) transfer and add in a grad transfer or two next May to fill a hole the roster in 2016 suddenly looks promising.
Lot of options still on the board.
Also let's not for get that many current Transfers are looking for an immediate starting postion, thus why they left their last program. ISU's top 8 is more or less set for this year, a lot of the Grad Transfers wouldn't fit this year roster. ISU is looking at transfers and HS prosepect with 2 or preferably more eligibilty left to make the post-Niang transition. Adding N. Babb, quite possibly Noskowaik and another (Tillman, Aaron? Mistery Summer or Dec?) transfer and add in a grad transfer or two next May to fill a hole the roster in 2016 suddenly looks promising.
Lot of options still on the board.
Yes, wide open playing time should work to our advantage next year.
It's a lot easier to land good transfers, when you have spots that aren't spoken for.
I think 2016's class should be our best overall under Fred.
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Kentucky was in the NIT less than 5 years ago. Agree with you that almost every team will have off years, and even blue bloods who consistently have top-10 recruiting classes are not immune
Auburn is listed twice, their interest must be particularly intense. Turn up the heat, Fred!! I want to see ISU listed three times!
I'm glad players and prospects have more respect and higher expectations in our coaching staff than many on here.
Fred has shown that he can get elite transfers very late in the spring to mid-summer and surprise everybody. They have a lot of prospects lined up but they do their due diligence to limit the likelihood of situations like BDJ brought. There are also a lot of great prospects that haven't even announced their transfer yet, let alone gone through the vetting process. I'm glad they're busy recruiting rather than spending their time leaking info that will just get over-reacting responses by some.
We're in on several Top 150 HS players for 2016 and I expect to see some additional movement over the coming months on that front. Everybody worries in April and May around here, but by June and July the hype train takes a second lap. While some of what we're hoping to land might not come to fruition, we have 8 open scholarships in the next 15 months and the staff absolutely has a plan to make sure they're filled with the best possible athletes this side of the pond (and maybe beyond).
While I'm incredibly realistic (i.e. don't ask me about football), I also have the luxury of knowing things to put me at ease that aren't yet - and may never be - public. Since not everybody has that luxury, please just take a Xanax, sit back, and worry about other things you can control (yes, that coming from a diagnosed OCD worrier). The sun will come up tomorrow and ISU MBB has never been on a higher or better trajectory.
Fred has shown that he can get elite transfers very late in the spring to mid-summer and surprise everybody. They have a lot of prospects lined up but they do their due diligence to limit the likelihood of situations like BDJ brought. There are also a lot of great prospects that haven't even announced their transfer yet, let alone gone through the vetting process. I'm glad they're busy recruiting rather than spending their time leaking info that will just get over-reacting responses by some.
We're in on several Top 150 HS players for 2016 and I expect to see some additional movement over the coming months on that front. Everybody worries in April and May around here, but by June and July the hype train takes a second lap. While some of what we're hoping to land might not come to fruition, we have 8 open scholarships in the next 15 months and the staff absolutely has a plan to make sure they're filled with the best possible athletes this side of the pond (and maybe beyond).
While I'm incredibly realistic (i.e. don't ask me about football), I also have the luxury of knowing things to put me at ease that aren't yet - and may never be - public. Since not everybody has that luxury, please just take a Xanax, sit back, and worry about other things you can control (yes, that coming from a diagnosed OCD worrier). The sun will come up tomorrow and ISU MBB has never been on a higher or better trajectory.
It's sad when the national media is more optimistic about our future than some of our fans
Absolutely. People bash on the media for being anti-Cyclone and the one time in my 32 years that I remember them being over the top with enthusiasm, the fans find other things to keep them depressed. The "sucks to be a Cyclone" attitude is going to end up being self-fulfilling if people don't lay off a bit.
Amen. I apprecitate the concern of some fans because is does show that people care about the Cyclone Athletics but the negativity does wear thin sometimes.
We are considered a Top 5 MBB program going into next year nationally afterall. Everyone R-E-L-A-X and let the staff execute their plan and the end of June well see the direction.
ISU Atheltic Dept can (and does espectially with CFH) have nice things.
To be honest the only concern I have with 2016-17 is post play. We really have nothing there at this moment and will need some experience down low for sure. The guards though is the least of my concern as I believe Monte will be here for his senior year. With a lineup like this I hope Fred can find a transfer big or Giorgios can develop into something serviceable at least.
PG- Monte
SG- Cooke/Thomas/ Babb
SF- Burton/ Babb
PF- ?
C- ? (Giorgios?)
I do feel pretty confident to land Amir Coffey and Miles Bridges for 2016 (as well as Noskowiak for 2015) but we still need true post players.
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I think this is the biggest difference that most people forget to grasp. Not a lot of top transfers want to use their last season of eligibility not starting or getting similar or worse minutes than before.
So you are saying the staff is recruiting players who haven't announced their transfer or been released? Not saying I don't mind them stretching the rules, but I don't think that's legal.....
In the past there has usually been smoke or sources pointing to where/who the staff is looking at. Not sure if that was directly coming from MA or not? But this year there is minimal to no info coming out about anyone, so I think folks are a bit concerned.
