***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***
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Big East is basically only 3 teams, if your scenario is true I'm guessing it would likely mean:
Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Louisville, Wake Forest, and two other leftovers would be adding Cincy, USF, UConn. Nine team league unless they pick up Temple, Memphis, SMU or Houston from the "new" Big East.
Lots of dominoes...but Wake, BC, Idaho and NM State would be the only teams that could argue they got a true downgrade if it shakes out like that. Everyone else taking a lateral step or step up.
be very interesting to see what number the B1G stops at because i think they move then the sec responds with the same number if its 16, 18 or 20. I can see UNC and Duke as a package deal. I still think that UVA is to big along with either GT if they go just to 16 and can't get UNC away from Duke. I think then the SEC goes with VT and what has been rumoured is NCST.
I want to get it over with. IF the ACC's fall is inevitable, I hope it gets torn apart in one swoop by the B1G, Big 12, and SEC and the speculation can end.
Without seeing the actual insider article, is it just the insidemd blog theyre sourcing or do they have their own sources?
Its not up on their main site, so theyre just hiding it in their rumors section for now..
Nothing new. But this is more of a response than one normally get with poooo flinging.
I THINK 18 makes sense plus with a 10 game schedule. 8 division games and two cros divisions a year on a 5 year rotation
Boise State applied pressure to Big East during breakup, emails show - CBSSports.com
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Maryland 247 site reporting North Carolina has Big Ten offer, Virginia on deck? - Land-Grant Holy Land
I believe that reported ACC team is supposedly UNC.
I believe that reported ACC team is supposedly UNC.
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I'm starting to be of the mindset that as more conferences move to 14 and 16 schools, maybe even 18, that they'll try it out for a a few years and eventually move to 20.
Everyone has to realize that 10 schools within close proximity to each other is just about ideal. However, once you've crossed that threshold by 4 or 6 schools, it's not easy to go back (what would a conference do, kick out the 6 least desirable teams?). It'd be easier to just add 4 more and break up into 10-school "divisions" that are more like conferences; they'd play a round-robin, with the winner of each division meeting in a championship game. That way you'd get the benefit of tractable scheduling and travel, rivalries, and an expansive conference footprint.
Everyone has to realize that 10 schools within close proximity to each other is just about ideal. However, once you've crossed that threshold by 4 or 6 schools, it's not easy to go back (what would a conference do, kick out the 6 least desirable teams?). It'd be easier to just add 4 more and break up into 10-school "divisions" that are more like conferences; they'd play a round-robin, with the winner of each division meeting in a championship game. That way you'd get the benefit of tractable scheduling and travel, rivalries, and an expansive conference footprint.
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By the way, I know it's been said before, but I hate what the Big Ten is doing to college athletics. It's not a conference anymore; it's just a TV network and the schools are their programs. It's not about cultivating scholarship, competition, and a great fan experience...it's about pimping out these schools for every last dollar by forcing them down the throats of cable subscribers in densely-populated areas. It's sickening.
Ironic that it's being driven by a conference that is supposedly all about academics...CIC, AAU, all of that.
Ive had the same thought. Basically youre making 2 conferences and having them fly under the same banner to get more money. This could be the same at 16, 18, or 20 depending on how many conference games you have and how many cross division games you have. A 16 team league could be like two 8 member conferences. Play 7 games against your half, and if youre going to 9 or 10 conference games then you have 2-3 games in the other half.
This is absolutely the best bottom line description. The money is big enough now where the players need to be paid and paid well
Don't know if anybody read the article link posted here the other day about Husker recruiting, but basically it said that (for several reasons) there aren't enough quality athletes in the traditional Big Ten foot print for the Big Ten schools outside of the traditional powerhouse schools to be successful. The powerhouses get the best athletes out of the Big Ten footprint, the others get average athletes, and even the powerhouses aren't getting enough high quality athletes to beat the best "southern conference" schools. That article, which was written from an NU perspective, basically said that with the Texas pipeline closing down, NU is having difficulty getting the calibre of athletes it needs out of the existing Big Ten footprint. Certainly NU isn't the only Big Ten school with that problem.
If Delaney is indeed going after UNC and some other ACC schools like GT, it makes perfect sense. I don't think this latest push by the Big Ten into the ACC is strictly for TV money. It's also about getting the Big Ten recruiting footprint into that pool of southern athletes. In fact, the latter may be the driver.
I wonder if NU is sorry that it left for the Big Ten...I would love to be a fly on the wall in the NU AD now that Osborne is gone. I also wonder if the other Big Ten members are sorry they added NU. NU couldn't maintain its Texas recruiting pipeline as well as expected, and is now another drain on the Big Ten recruiting footprint, and also takes up a spot that could be offered to a southern school in this rumored incursion into the ACC.
If Delaney is indeed going after UNC and some other ACC schools like GT, it makes perfect sense. I don't think this latest push by the Big Ten into the ACC is strictly for TV money. It's also about getting the Big Ten recruiting footprint into that pool of southern athletes. In fact, the latter may be the driver.
I wonder if NU is sorry that it left for the Big Ten...I would love to be a fly on the wall in the NU AD now that Osborne is gone. I also wonder if the other Big Ten members are sorry they added NU. NU couldn't maintain its Texas recruiting pipeline as well as expected, and is now another drain on the Big Ten recruiting footprint, and also takes up a spot that could be offered to a southern school in this rumored incursion into the ACC.
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I think this is where the ADs and conference comissioners see it going. We are moving to a minor league system and away from a collegiate system. JMHO.
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