***Official 2019-2020 Transfer Thread***

Discussion in 'Mens Basketball' started by ruflosn, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. Cyforce

    Cyforce Well-Known Member

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    Our successes are usually based on taking advantages of mismatches. Foster on the perimeter causes mismatches. The question to determine if it works is does he pose more of a problem than a liability?
     
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  2. WhoISthis

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    That’s the thing, if he’s playing the 4, I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Chicken or the egg paradox.

    Mike was a CF whipping boy. Foster as a freshman isn’t likely to surpass Mike imo, although his length does allow for a few more highlights. I’d be surprised if Foster is more aggressive on either end. Two bigs is just tough when neither big has ball skills.
     
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  3. isucy86

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    #1783 isucy86, Apr 7, 2020
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    If he was a 25% shooter, I might use the word ONLY. But for a post player, if he can come close to 32% that would be very acceptable at the college level as long as he's only launching up a few shots a game.

    The reality is shooting 33% from 3 is about equal to hitting 50% from 2. I say "about" because a guy making 50% of his shots around the basket is going to get fouled more and have a chance at traditional 3 point plays.

    Personally, if a kid makes more than 35% from 3 he should have a green light. A guy who shoots over 39% from 3 point line is elite.
     
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  4. Statefan10

    Statefan10 Well-Known Member

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    I think you may be underestimating Xavier's ball skills a bit but obviously we're just all going to have to wait and see what type of player he is for us next year. Xavier almost looks more like a guard in a 7 footer's body.
     
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    We've got a problem if we need to rely on Foster to shoot 3's.
     
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    I thought Jacobson taking 3s was problematic too but maybe I'm overestimating how many he launched
     
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    Halincandenza Well-Known Member

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    Shooting that percentage from the HS line doesn’t translate to that percentage from the new college line.
     
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    Northwestern Oklahoma State University
    Texas A&M University-Kingsville
    University of Texas-Permian Basin
    University of Arkansas at Monticello
     
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  9. WhoISthis

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    Wow, I can get behind this spin :)

    32% in high school equates to what next year at the college 3P line? I’d guess it goes down a little, but maybe not. A 30% 3P shooter isn’t worth the downside of playing two bigs on defense. Why not just play a wing?

    Fwiw, Jacobson was 32% on 3Ps at ISU.
     
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  10. Statefan10

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    Northwestern, Oklahoma State, Texas, and Arkansas isn't a bad list of suitors.. ;)
     
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  11. CyberJJJ

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    To answer the questions in bold, check out the individual statistics on 3 PT% from this past season. https://cyclones.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats. The short answer is that Tyrese was the only one over 40%, so once he went down, our wings were either under 30%, or not very much over. Thus, if said wing is playing matador defense and not much of a threat to hit from outside, why stick with them exclusively? I am not saying I believe a given player is better, but to assume we can't play two bigs when our wings aren't really proven either seems a bit premature. Will be interesting to see who improves in the off season. While the virus means there may be no pickup ball, that doesn't stop them from hoisting shots in their driveway.

    From that web site, it looks like Mike was 15 of 50 for the year which is only 30% by my crude math.
     
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    I thought we were talking about Foster, next year, with JJ and other wings on the roster.

    Mike was put in a bad spot, but it certainly may have been our best hand to play. Hopefully we can avoid putting Foster in that spot.
     
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  13. Statefan10

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    100% Mike was our best option. He was the best of the worst options. If Foster is worse or at the same level as Mike as far as his abilities, I truly hope we don't put him in that spot.

    My assumption is he's going to be able to provide a lot of different things offensively and will be able to use his length and athleticism on the defensive end to be able to be at least competent when guarding a small ball 4. If he's not, then no I do not want to see him at that 4 position.
     
  14. Cyforce

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    So you think we'd have a shot?
     
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    Pshhh, no chance. University of Texas of the Permian Basin has a shot to win the Lone Star Conference next year. We can't compete with that sort of competition.
     
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    I’d be surprised if his offense or perimeter defense are tangibly different as a freshman, but obviously his length will help with shot blocking and finishing (hence, I think he’s more a 5).
     
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    Once someone sees Odessa, you can't get Odessa out of their heart.
     
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    I had not heard of 3/4 of those schools before today.
     
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  19. Statefan10

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    I no doubt think he can play the 5, I just think his skill set is more of a stretch 4. If and only if his game transitions well will be the determining factor.
     
  20. Sigmapolis

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    <3 the Petroplex
     

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