***Official 2019-2020 Transfer Thread***

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  1. Cyclone560

    Cyclone560 New Member

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    I certainly agree, don't think he was ever their lead guy or even really close to it, but he played significant minutes at the point for some good teams. I think he would be a good get just to have at least an experienced point guard, which I think we need mainly so that Bolton could play off the ball again where his skill set is best suited. Especially if could get any of these other guys that are more scorer type transfers in as well, a guy like Mintz I think could fit into a much needed role and really elevate the team around him based on filling that role and letting others slot better into their more favorable roles/positions.
     
  2. CyberJJJ

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    #1762 CyberJJJ, Apr 7, 2020
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    Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to say that Foster is our answer at the 4. I brought it up because it seemed others were plugging him, Solo and Conditt in at the 5 and assuming we can't play two bigs on the floor at once. We didn't do it effectively last year, but to assume we will go with four-out-one-in isn't necessarily driven by what our personnel will be.

    Certainly looks that Steve prefers a four out offense, but if you personnel can't play it and you can't successfully recruit to it, then you have to look at alternatives or eventually hit the road. One of the things Fred did well while here was exploit match-ups, and change to use the personnel he had. No great point guard? Use the point forward skills you have on the team where we see Royce or Niang bring the ball up. Not great size? Spread the floor and make the other team pay with 3's or drives off the bounce when they try to play bigger. If you don't have the talent to exploit any of those options, then you have really long years.
     
  3. WhoISthis

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    He’s athletic for a 7-footer. He’ll struggle to defend as a four.

    Yeah, he’ll play the 4 sometimes. I mean, Zion played the 4 sometimes! MJ played a lot of 4 last year, and if that’s Foster next year, results will be similar imo.
     
  4. Statefan10

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    Right away, I don't expect him to be able to defend a small ball 4 well, however if it's clear he should be starting halfway through the year, I'm not sure where else you'd put him? Especially if Solomon is solid at his position.

    Mike was inept at the 4 on both ends of the floor because he was not aggressive at all offensively and defensively he couldn't move his feet or get back into some sort of position to defend a shot. With Fosters length, a guy could theoretically blow by him and he has the ability to block or at least contest his shot at the rim. That's certainly a positive.
     
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  5. BryceC

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    And prep schools. Many guys take a 5th year at a prep school to get fully eligible as opposed to going to a JC now.
     
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  6. WastedTalent

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    There's just different strategies to take this spring. Absolute #1 priority should be a guy that can score. A go to guy that has different ways of putting the ball thru the hoop. #2 should be a guy that can handle the ball, and facilitate the offense.
    So far, with Turner and Aiken, it looks like Prohm is combining 1&2. Which is fine, but if he happens to miss on both of them, then absolutely get a guy like Mintz or Buggs for priority #2, then you're free to go after anyone in the portal that is a scorer.
    I'm not so certain this strategy isn't the better option. It's gives you more options to fill the #1 priority.
     
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    Not a great day on transfer news... This thread could get bleak (more so even) for a while.

    @jakeweingarten Rice transfer Trey Murphy III is down to four finalists, he told @Stockrisers: Villanova, Virginia, Houston and Pittsburgh. He’s conducted virtual calls but is yet to have his decision date.
     
  8. CoKane

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    You've unearthed this years Beverly!
     
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    Something just doesn't seem to be adding up...I don't know if it is Prohm inability to recruit well in a short period of time or what...But we have a HC and a program really who has put a pretty decent amount of kids into the NBA lately..Moreso than most..Have a Soph PG who is going to be a Lottery pick...Have great fan base with a great environment to play in front of in a big time conference...and we have done well with Transfers past 6-7 years mostly..

    Only thing I can think of is there isn't confidence in the head man idk..or we just aren't offering $$$ what other schools are offering..which is entirely possible.

    Transfer season isn't over but we have 4 open spots..not 1 or 2....but 4.

    Instant starter minutes.

    There's a disconnect somewhere and its frustrating.
     
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  11. Statefan10

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    I mean if you look at where some of these guys are going, they're choosing some good schools as well as schools that are relatively close to them.
     
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    Weren't in on him for the past week or so but Tyrese Martin committed to UConn
     
  14. CoKane

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    I'd assume a lot of these guys know they aren't or probably aren't going to the NBA so they're picking teams who they think they can at least make the tournament on. We've been horrendous 2 of the last 3 years and had a first round exit in the other. There's a lot of better resumes out there right now and everyone is in on transfers now too

    I also dont think it helps Prohm is heading into year 6 right now either. Some bad teams can sell that they're building a program, like someone like Hoiberg can in year two. It's not hard to recruit against the guy in year 6 who lost 20 games last year
     
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  15. Cycl0nepower

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    This kid deserves a look.
     
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    I'm sorry, but have you seen some of his offers?
     
  17. Cyforce

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    No, care to share?
     
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  18. Cycl0nepower

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    Nah, I wasn’t able to find any on twitter.
     
  19. isucy86

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    I think the coaching staff failed last season. They tried to do the exact same things offensively & defensively as the first 3 years - but it didn't fit the personnel.

    If Foster is one of our top 8 players, along with Conditt & Young- then the coaching staff needs to find ways to make it work. Does that mean more high/low offense with 2 posts? Does it mean more zone defense? Having Foster or Conditt on the baseline of a zone would make it tough for wing 3 point shooters.

    Similarly, people keep chirping about Gomez being a defensive liability. He might not be great, but coaches can cover for that through schemes. Again, maybe play some zone. When in man, maybe it means we need to fight through screens vs. switching every screen

    People who are far more knowledgeable about basketball than I, when evaluating Foster's game at the HS level viewed him as a guy who didn't like to play in the paint and preferred to hang out around the 3 point line. Can't completely blame Foster, because he has a very nice stroke for a 7' ish player. Based on that feedback, if Foster is going to play major minutes in 20/21 it will be at the PF position.

    IMO the Young, Conditt and Foster trio (if he is ready) can play together in any combination of the 3. Johnson gets minutes at 4 if Foster isn't ready. I think we also need to remember that all these kids have dreams of playing in the NBA. So they are going to prefer playing a position that highlights their skills for the pro-level. So while Johnson might play some 4, he is going to want to play wing. Obviously, the coaches are going to play a kid at the position that helps the team win the most. IMO, a big reason Wigginton jumped early was he wasn't going to play PG at ISU. The best way for his development to progress was the G-League.
     
  20. moores2

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    He hung out at the 3 point line because the guards were not capable of good post entries to get him the ball there.
     
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