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I don't really have any vested interest in the outcome of this series, but as a basketball fan I'm getting so sick of the refs playing a role in the outcome of the game. The officiating has been horrendous. Going back to the Rockets/Warriors Game 7, the only reason the refs weren't talked about more there was the Rockets abysmal shooting. They were awful.

Then last night, I get the reversal is a dumb NBA rule rather than a ref thing. But there were so many horrible calls down the stretch. Then the Tristan Thompson ejection just set it all off. Dude literally did nothing. It was a hard close out. If you want to take a shot with 2 seconds left on the clock, fine, but surely the guy is allowed to close out. Then they go to the monitor and somehow still say that he swung at his head, which he didn't. Ultimate ref show at that point in time. No doubt they were just making it about themselves at that point.

Give me a Cubs game or hockey over this nonsense the rest of the way.

I was really impressed with the officiating all playoff long until that Game 7 and last night. Hopefully they get it together the rest of the way.
 
I was really impressed with the officiating all playoff long until that Game 7 and last night. Hopefully they get it together the rest of the way.

Past NBA refs are on record saying they made bogus calls to favor a star player or a club favored by the league office. The calls in the last five minutes last night really makes you wonder.
 
How do you figure? One person could look at it and say that he beat KD to the spot, before KD went up into his shooting motion. It's not like he slid in under him after Durant had left his feet. You could argue either way.

The NFL already figured out the problem with slowing things down to frame by frame and tryingto make a call that way. That's why they went back to the drawing board on the catch rule after last season. Same issue here.

He's completely leaning to the left. He was not to the spot yet.
You don't have to blow up the rule here... it was very clearly a block.
 
He's completely leaning to the left. He was not to the spot yet.
You don't have to blow up the rule here... it was very clearly a block.

I disagree with it very clearly being a block. Like someone pointed to earlier, his left foot got there and was planted and he was leaning to catch up to him getting there first. Steve Javie said last night you don't have to be perfectly still for it to be a charge.

This is the whole point though of it. We are clearly debating what it was. They called charge, stick with charge. They used the bogus inside the circle maybe argument to go change it.
 
I disagree with it very clearly being a block. Like someone pointed to earlier, his left foot got there and was planted and he was leaning to catch up to him getting there first. Steve Javie said last night you don't have to be perfectly still for it to be a charge.

This is the whole point though of it. We are clearly debating what it was. They called charge, stick with charge. They used the bogus inside the circle maybe argument to go change it.

You can't just set one foot last time i checked.

I'm with you on the circle argument.
 
If that was not indisputably a blocking foul - i'm not sure what is.
Whether or not it should have been reviewed is the only question.

The fact of it is was a block/charge is not debatable. If you want to argue in full speed i will listen to the argument, but after review if you think that call is not indisputable - i can't help you.

Maybe you are using “you” in general but I’ve said three separate times the correct call is a block. As we Cyclone fans know better than anyone in the world, the definition of “indisputable” ranges wildly.

My beef is I don’t know how many times I’ve seen a blown foul call on a reviewed out of bounds play and they aren’t allowed to correct that.

Also it seems like a stretch that they needed to review that restricted area.
 
Past NBA refs are on record saying they made bogus calls to favor a star player or a club favored by the league office. The calls in the last five minutes last night really makes you wonder.

Harden has become the most difficult player in basketball to officiate. The guy creates more real and fake fouls per game than most entire teams do. It really got away from them at the end missing real fouls and calling fake ones.

Last night I think was a sign even the best officials can get affected by a home court.
 
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Harden has become the most difficult player in basketball to officiate. The guy creates more real and fake fouls per game than most entire teams do. It really got away from them at the end missing real fouls and calling fake ones.

Last night I think was a sign even the best officials can get affected by a home court.

This is why I don't feel bad for him. It seems like I saw somewhere he leads FTA over the last 5 years by leaps and bounds. LBJ wasn't even close and that guy gets mugged quite a bit.
 
This is why I don't feel bad for him. It seems like I saw somewhere he leads FTA over the last 5 years by leaps and bounds. LBJ wasn't even close and that guy gets mugged quite a bit.

He does create the most real contact, more than James even, but he also creates the most fake bs.

Those last couple games the refs were missing obvious real fouls and at the same time sending him to the line for stupid bs.
 
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ers-face-suspension-entering-court-end-game-1

No suspension coming for Kevin Love. The league has yet to decide on Tristan Thompson. I don't know what's going to happen with or without Thompson for Game 2.

My gut is telling me that the Warriors just took Cleveland's best punch and survived. Lebron got a fair bit of help from the rest of the team (by their modest standards) and it still wasn't enough. And I doubt Durant will shoot that poorly again.

But what's interesting is that without Iguodala, the Warriors don't really have anyone who can handle an assignment on Lebron and at least make him work for it. Time after time last night Lebron just kept calling for a high screen until he got the matchup he wanted and then got into the lane with ease.

I don't know. I'm still thinking Warriors in five but I was surpised by how the Cavs hung around last night and really should have pulled that one out.
 
If that was not indisputably a blocking foul - i'm not sure what is.
Whether or not it should have been reviewed is the only question.

The fact of it is was a block/charge is not debatable. If you want to argue in full speed i will listen to the argument, but after review if you think that call is not indisputable - i can't help you.

Sure it is. The official that the commentators were interviewing while the refs reviewed it said that on the replay that it was a charge. Sounds plenty debatable to me.
 
NBAs official review of the final two minutes says it was a charge and should not of been overturned. Also points out a missed foul on Greeen and a missed lane violation on Green before JR Smith got the rebound on the final play before OT.
 
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Yeah. Almost 4 decades here knowing that home wears white unis. This is weird.

Think that's confusing? NHL is worse. It used to be white jerseys at home and color on the road. Then something like 15-20 years ago with every team getting an alternate color jersey, the NHL flipped it to color at home, white on the road.

Well, I guess it's not confusing, it's just it used to be one way, and now it's the other.
 
Tomorrow LeBron haters are once again going to take to the internet tommorow whining about LeBron's whining, but seriously - what does it take for LeBron to draw a foul? For all the Jordan defense, the refs would NEVER have not called that foul for him.