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NCAA source: "Unprecedented" penalties against Penn State

I'm not sure how many of you read Steve Deace's take on this (I know not all like him)...but I appreciate his perspective on this:

Penn State: A Lack of Institutional Conscience & Control | Steve Deace

Here are the penalties he would suggest:

* A 14-year championship/postseason ban. That’s one year for every year Penn State concealed Sandusky’s sexual abuse. Penn State will not be eligible to win a Big Ten or national championship, or play in a bowl game, until 2026.

* A 14-year moratorium on collecting shares of television or bowl revenue, and all of that money is instead earmarked towards a restitution fund for the victims in an effort to lessen the burden on Pennsylvania taxpayers having to pick up the tab for the multitude of legal expenses forthcoming. Big Ten rules call for equal revenue sharing by all member institutions, so Penn State will still get a share of the bowl revenue collected by its conference rivals even if it weren’t eligible to play in a bowl game itself.

* The NCAA alters the record books to no longer consider Paterno the winningest coach in college football history.

I don't think it's fair to punish the fans or current players as they didn't have anything to do with aiding and abetting a child molester, but the school leadership did. Therefore there should be a heavy punishment that takes 14 years of cover-up into account....I don't think 5 years is enough (bowl ban or scholarships).
 
Clonefan32 said:
I'm afraid of this too. It sounds like PSU's Administration either had some say in it or ok'd it. They could have hid behind the the "you have no authority under the rules to do this" type argument and prolonged this if they wanted to, which makes me think it won't be as bad as some think.

Chances it gets leaked before tomorrow? I'd say high.
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this was my thought exactly. what if the punishment is dished out, then PSU takes it to court and it is ruled that those who dished out the punishment had no right to do so. then PSU gets off scott free? CONSPIRACY THEORY!
 
theyork said:
this was my thought exactly. what if the punishment is dished out, then PSU takes it to court and it is ruled that those who dished out the punishment had no right to do so. then PSU gets off scott free? CONSPIRACY THEORY!
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Also don't trust the NCAA in any way shape or form. Seems awfully fishy to rule on a 3rd party report that didn't follow a precedented process. I suspect the sanctions will be designed to make PSU go off the map for a year or two while sounding far more severe and then Penn State to challenge the rulings and win once the uproar has subsided
 
I just dont think the NCAA has the balls to give out these so called harsh punishments, all speculation still until tomorrow. They should be harsh punishment, but doubtful. There will be punishment no doubt just not what we the public/fans want.

PSU just needs to go away for a long time they deserve nothing and their fans disgust me as does the Paterno family not realizing what they created.
 
The pessimist in me also wants to think that Penn St is going to get off light, but when people who have seen when sources are saying that Penn St would rather have had the death penalty compared to what they're going to have to face over the next X number of years...
 
Believe when I hear it tomorrow, if so called harsh penalties happen can players leave and play elsewhere and not sit out a year?
 
Here's an example of the kind of misguided, homerism going on at PSU, right now.

Taken from the PSU Audibles message board:

"This message is ONLY intended for the members of the baord. Please forward it on to all of them.

In your effort to pay a corrupt judge $6 million to assassinate Joe Paterno's character to justify your November actions...you have destroyed Penn State. I grew up in State College and earned two degrees from PSU, but your backstabbing agenda pretty much guarantees that you will never again receive a single dollar of my money. I can't even speak about my degrees proudly because they have been so tarnished. I will have to take them off of my school counseling wall because it will assuredly horrify the parents of my students in the state I live.

Syracuse had an IDENTICAL story going on at the same time, but they had leaders who knew how to handle a crisis. You not only blew it, you threw gasoline on the fire.

I'm done with PSU.

XXX
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There's a ton of backlash against the BOT going on right now, not for what they did or didn't do prior to everything becoming public, but for what they've done since. I don't think their fans realize what a terrible position they were in. They wanted them to fight, to say "Enough is enough." I just don't think they've considered the consequences of doing that. If the new president, Erickson, or anyone else in power were to take this attitude, they would immediately be labeled as a Sandusky sympathizer. Career suicide. Immediately. No debate. Done. Career over.

PSU fans are calling the Board and president spineless. I think they're just too close to the situation to realize that there is literally nothing those people can do. They have no power to rewrite this story anymore.
 
I wasn't in favor of the NCAA penalizing Penn State until I saw the comment from the Penn State trustee calling out "pansy Presidents" at other universities. If the Penn State president wasn't a corrupt, disgusting pansy and actually dealt with this issue in the first place, Penn State wouldn't be in this situation. Now I say screw 'em and penalize the crap out of them.
 
Given what the NCAA did to Caltech, for having the audacity to put academics over athletics, I'm guessing Penn State, who put athletics over preventing child abuse, will get a slap on the wrist. NCAA is a joke.
 
CycloneChris said:
I wasn't in favor of the NCAA penalizing Penn State until I saw the comment from the Penn State trustee calling out "pansy Presidents" at other universities. If the Penn State president wasn't a corrupt, disgusting pansy and actually dealt with this issue in the first place, Penn State wouldn't be in this situation. Now I say screw 'em and penalize the crap out of them.
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I hadn't heard that. WTF? Who was it? Why in the world would someone open their mouth like that, considering the situation?
 
Mr Janny said:
CycloneChris said:
I wasn't in favor of the NCAA penalizing Penn State until I saw the comment from the Penn State trustee calling out "pansy Presidents" at other universities. If the Penn State president wasn't a corrupt, disgusting pansy and actually dealt with this issue in the first place, Penn State wouldn't be in this situation. Now I say screw 'em and penalize the crap out of them.
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I hadn't heard that. WTF? Who was it? Why in the world would someone open their mouth like that, considering the situation?
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As several of us have been saying, the culture at Penn St that would place football over the well-being of 12 year old boys needs to change. Those fans need to learn that there are more important things in life than Nittany Lion football.
 
jdoggivjc said:
As several of us have been saying, the culture at Penn St that would place football over the well-being of 12 year old boys needs to change. Those fans need to learn that there are more important things in life than Nittany Lion football.
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Nonsense. You are being extremely naive if you think comments like those are not made by BOT's elsewhere (but not made public) and that PSU is the only school with fanatical supporters. Good luck having anything hold up in court based on "I do not like the culture".

"The purpose of the NCAA is to keep a level playing field among schools and to make sure they use proper methods through scholarships and etcetera," the chair said. "This is not a case that would normally go through the process. It has nothing to do with a level playing field. It has nothing to do with whether Penn State gets advantages over other schools in recruiting or in the number of coaches or things that we normally deal with."

"But this has nothing to do with NCAA business," said the former chair. "This is new. If they're going to deal with situations of this kind that have nothing to do with the games of who plays and so on and rather deal with members of the athletic department who act immorally or criminally then it opens up the door to other cases."

Hopefully the NCAA does take a scholarship from ISU MBB for many at the school suspecting LE had a drinking problem for sometime. Our coaches better report any rumors of cases of players committing crimes like DUI/sexual assault.
 
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jdoggivjc said:
As several of us have been saying, the culture at Penn St that would place football over the well-being of 12 year old boys needs to change. Those fans need to learn that there are more important things in life than Nittany Lion football.
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Hang on a second, the common Penn State fan did not cover anything up. The common fan acted like all fans do. They supported their team, bought tickets, merchandise, etc. And when the accusations started flying, they chose to believe in their long time coach. That's no different than Iowa fans backing Kirk during the Satterfield/Everson situation or ISU fans backing CPR over Albert Gary. Not on the same level, but the same concept.

It may be wrong for them to do so. It may be misguided. It may be ill informed. But, it's certainly not unique, not to Penn State. Is that something you punish them for, though? You punish them because their opinion on the situation is different than yours? It's not criminal. Their opinion certainly doesn't violate any NCAA regulations. But they deserve to be punished for it?

This is the second time that you've made clear that you believe the common PSU fan deserves to be punished. I really just want to know what exactly they did that doesn't happen at darn near every other D-1 school? You seem to want to punish them for their personal take on the situation.
 
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