what is interesting in reading the PSU board(really should get to work), is how many of them are telling each other to accept this, because they do not want a deeper investigation which could actually lead to more condemning or worse information.
NCAA source: "Unprecedented" penalties against Penn State
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Ha, they'd take 5 to 8 right now and be ecstatic.
This will make SMU look like a slap on the wrist.
This isn't about punishing individuals, no individuals were mentioned in the press conference today, the criminal justice system will take care of that. This is about an association punishing one of its member institutions. Penn State was the recipient of the punishment, not specific people. You need to understand that distinction. Penn State, as an institution, ****ed up and ****ed up badly. So yes, punishing Penn State does punish the institution that broke the bylaws and constitution of the NCAA And yes, it probably will prevent people with a vested interest in their institution from behaving in this manner in the future.
SMU was a small private school who also dealt with increased admission requirements and conference realignment in the aftermath of the death penalty.
Penn St has all the resources to overcome this quicker than you think. They will still be an elite jobe once O'Brien is fired in 3-4 years.
this. Who are the "innocent victims" of the sanctions that I keep hearing about? The players who are allowed to transfer, penalty free? The fans? Who might have to watch a few years of ****** football or do something else on the weekends?
Or the young boys, who had their lives destroyed by a despicable POS and the administration who covered it up for him and refused to stand up for the helpless?
It is sickening to hear about the fans and players referred to as "victims". Disgusting.
The wiser of the bunch who actually realize how easily PSU got off today compared to what could/should have happened.
Really, because SMU is now in a much lesser conference and hasn't been relevant in 25 years. PSU has the facilities, fans and $$ to make a speedy recovery.
Maybe its time for them to reflect about the real purpose of a university. Hint: its not 7 or 8 fall Saturdays, and trying to help a few kids get a shot at the NFL. Collegiate athletics should be considered a privilege, not a right.
Don't forget that the criminal trials of the PSU administrators are still pending and that the NCAA has reserved the right to hand down further punishment after those proceedings are complete.
Also, the $73 million dollars in fines that were levied today will hopefully be pocket change in comparison to what they will lose in the civil court battles.
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I guess we watch it play out. As Skyh13 said above, I don't really see how anything the NCAA did today is going to affect culture change at PSU.
I think you're so hung up on the death penalty that Pedo State didn't get that you don't realize just how bad it's going to be for them. It'd be one thing if a name coach were still coaching them, they'd probably weather the storm a lot better. And okay, fine, they recruited well this off season before any punishments went down. But I think you are underplaying the importance of the 4 year bowl ban and the loss of scholarships. Once again, if a quality coach were coaching them, they'd better survive it. But you have a relatively unknown coaching staff coaching who knows who by the end of the week. And it's going to be hard to replace players with all those scholarship cuts.
Perhaps they will survive this. But I just don't think so.
rumor is #1 Quarterback recruit and #8 overall Christian Hackenberg decommits tonight/tomorrow.
It will be no piece of cake, but they will survive, and as CyJack13 said above, likely come out better on the other side.
Perhaps you (and others here) don't appreciate how money (on the level that PSU donors can generate it) can fix just about anything in college football. PSU needed to come through today with one thing...PSU still playing football. With the football progam still alive, the money will continue to come it.
The bowl ban is largely a non-factor. Good FB players primarily want an avenue into professional ranks, and PSU is still well positioned to do that.
The blind loyalty will afford them enough walk-ons to hang on.
When the time comes 3-4 years down the road, PSU will flash money and they'll get the coach they need. Once they get the coach, the recruits will follow.
Standing by my earlier prediction...barring any further NCAA sanctions, PSU will be back in a bowl within two years of the sanctions ending. And judging by the PSU reaction today, I'll give you another prediction...the JoePa shrine will be back up within 15 years.
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I might buy this - if USC remained a juggernaut during their probation. But they didn't - it was a real rough patch for them, and they didn't get smacked around nearly as badly as Penn St did.
I might also buy this more if empires didn't crumble all the time. In the early years of the Big 12 Texas wasn't that great of a program, and they're not the program they were in the mid 2000s. A&M has been a joke for the last decade. Nebraska may never be what they once were ever again. Notre Dame hasn't been anything special in the last 20 years. Michigan, Ohio St, Miami, Florida St, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, all schools that are reputed on the same level as Penn St, have all had down periods, most of them without NCAA smackdowns. But according to you, this cannot possibly happen because money and tradition win the day.
The problem with your argument is that money and tradition AREN'T everything. They help a great deal, certainly in the road to recovery, but if the team is incapable of winning then it all means nothing. The route to the pros that you claim is all that matters becomes much more pitted if the team is incapable of winning. And winning at Penn St is going to be much harder, considering the defections, to include existing roster members and recruits, has already begun according to ESPN. Guess those bowl games mean more to the players than you thought.
