NCAA Seeding

madguy30

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LOL Palm has Iowa State as an 8 seed but still has Iowa as a 7... He is seriously terrible at his job.

I think you and I have discussed this before...?

I want a job like bracketologists and the schmuck used car salesman that covers the NFL draft...just spew out a bunch of crap and get paid crazy money whether you're right or wrong.
 
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He has never been relevant and has minimal qualifications for his job. He’s a joke.
Yeah I get that but people pay attention to him since he works for the network that carries the tournament...
 

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I don't know seeding/location rules so not sure if this is possible, but sign me up:


It's definitely possible. If Iowa State ends up a 7 seed they have a 50% chance of playing in Des Moines because there will be two 2 seeds here.
 

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But if we aren't going to win another game, the seed doesn't matter, right? Hell, if we get a 6 or a 7 seed with as garbage as some of you seem to think we are, then you might have to accept that we weren't a terrible team.

The odds of us winning go up with a better seed, so maybe people would change predictions of losing out if we are seeded higher.

Just a thought.
 
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It's definitely possible. If Iowa State ends up a 7 seed they have a 50% chance of playing in Des Moines because there will be two 2 seeds here.

Would the NCAA really do that? I don't think it's fair to the 2 seed in Des Moines to play Iowa State in Des Moines.
 

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Would the NCAA really do that? I don't think it's fair to the 2 seed in Des Moines to play Iowa State in Des Moines.

Yes. In 2017 South Carolina played Duke in Greenville, SC and Michigan played Louisville in Indianapolis. With that being said, the only way that happens is if Des Moines hosts two 2 seeds.
 

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LOL Palm has Iowa State as an 8 seed but still has Iowa as a 7... He is seriously terrible at his job.
Big10 push poller and nothing more. Of the at-large teams (aside from the one seeds) Palm has 7 teams in which he equals the best seed. Four of those 7 are big 10 teams, and a couple, Iowa being most noticeable, he is a big outlier to the positive.

I still have yet to hear a reasonable argument for Iowa as being anything better than a 10 seed. 42 NET, 41 Kenpom. Those metrics say 11, yet they seem to be largely clustered around 8-9. I will say they seem to be a team with a big range (7-12). If you want to throw a SOS-heavy argument in there, they are 56 in RPI, which would be out of the tournament. I must be missing something.
 
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I'd rather be a 6 than a 5 TBH. I'm convinced the committee tries to keep the 12 vs 5 upsets going as much as possible (or at least make them more competitive than they should). Plus, with a 6, you avoid the 1 Seeds for as long as possible if the team catches fire. Would rather go 11, 3, 2 than 12, 4, 1

Big downside IMO would be as a five playing the winner of the play in, as they already have momentum and have gotten out the first game jitters.
 

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No way are we a 6 seed unless we win two games. This team is not in the 21-24 range. I would say we are an 8 right now and we move up a spot for every win and down for a loss.

Based on what?

Our NET is 24. Even if they bump us for not passing the eye test and bump us for finishing bad, it seems odd we’d fall to an 8 or 9.
 

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No way are we a 6 seed unless we win two games. This team is not in the 21-24 range. I would say we are an 8 right now and we move up a spot for every win and down for a loss.

Seeding isn't likely to swing to that extreme, because there are 4 positions for each seed. Single-game results won't move the needle much at this point.

Although I think ISU is no lower than 7 right now, suppose we are an 8. A loss to Baylor, which is roughly a 10 seed, won't automatically drop it to a 9. A win won't elevate the position.

If ISU wins, then defeats KSU, we climb a little in the S-curve, but won't automatically go from 8 to 7. And so on.
 
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