Millenials/Kids today...

[ArgentCy]

I completely disagree. Gen X goes all the way back to the 1960s. Whereas millennials are commonly referred to as those having been born between the early 80s - early 2000s. The term Millennials refers to the graduation year of 2000, meaning that 1982 would be the commonly referred to start date of birth for Millennials. 1996 appears to be a popular cutoff putting Millennials at 5-20 years of age at the time of 9/11.

Length of generation is something to consider. In terms of human life, the average generation is 25.5 years. In terms of sociology, the longest generation since 1900 is 23 years with the shortest being 17 years. Using the definition you proposed, Generation X would last from about 1961 - 1995 or 34 years. I just don't see that happening. The Pew Research Center uses the dates 1981 - 1996. The men who coined the term, William Strauss and Neil Howe, place the dates as 1982 - 2004. Assuming the longest possible length using these two commonly referred dates, the generation would be 22 years in length putting Millennials between 14 years old and 37 years old. The shortest length of generation y combining these dates would put millennials between 18 years old and 36 years old.

I really don't think Millennials will be thought of as having no understanding of 9/11. In fact, many researchers make the exact opposite proposal, that Millennials were largely affected by 9/11 in terms of psychology and how they live their lives.

I've read several of their Books, they are great reads. However, I don't get the confusion. We are very close on dates. Part of the problem is that some people have been shrinking the age groups and I think they have gone too far. The original book had the definition of Gen X from 1964-1984 (20 years) and Millennials were (1984-X) and that would have put them around 17 when 9/11 happened. It's not that they don't have an understanding of the specific event but that they didn't really know how things worked before the event. A good example would be remembering a time when you could fly on airplane without ID, getting groped, and being able to smoke. Most Gen X's can remember flying this way while Millennials would not.

 

[somecyguy]

Too often parents try to tell me all about their kids. That defeats the purpose of my classroom. I want to learn about them through their own voices. Building relationships with students and building trust between student and teacher is so crucial. Especially for kids who struggle. There's so much more I want to say or could say, but passing time is only 5 minutes.

It's nice to hear that. With the prevalence of PowerSchool and Canvas giving my wife and I daily access to our kids grades, I don't have any interaction with my high schooler's teachers. I tell my kid to take the lead with decisions or issues at school, because he'll need to in college and later in the work place. We are always available to help or discuss things with him, but as previously mentioned, many kids are unprepared to handle their own lives because their parents were too quick to jump in and do it for them.

 

[bawbie]

Something has to give in the usage of 'millenials', as evidenced by the thread title.

Either it means a defined generational age - OR - it means "kids these days". It can't continue to mean both.

 

[bos]

The ones that choose to go to Iowa are still **** though, right?

 

[CycloneErik]

Something has to give in the usage of 'millenials', as evidenced by the thread title.

Either it means a defined generational age - OR - it means "kids these days". It can't continue to mean both.

Not with that attitude.

 

[SimpsonClone]

I've read several of their Books, they are great reads. However, I don't get the confusion. We are very close on dates. Part of the problem is that some people have been shrinking the age groups and I think they have gone too far. The original book had the definition of Gen X from 1964-1984 (20 years) and Millennials were (1984-X) and that would have put them around 17 when 9/11 happened. It's not that they don't have an understanding of the specific event but that they didn't really know how things worked before the event. A good example would be remembering a time when you could fly on airplane without ID, getting groped, and being able to smoke. Most Gen X's can remember flying this way while Millennials would not.

But this isn't what you said. You said something to the effect of that if you have clear memories of this event you are gen x. Then said if you were too young to understand or know what was occurring you are millenial.

I was in 4th grade, have clear memories of 9/11, and understood the magnitude of what was happening. I think the confusion came in how your phrased your definition of millenials as not remembering clearly or understanding what was going on. It sounded like you were saying, yeah millenials may have been a live but they were only 5 years old and could remember or understand what was happening. Because I agree with what you are saying in this post. Either way, no big deal. I was really confused by your use of remembering or understanding what was happening. I vividly remember 9/11, but you are right, my memories of a pre 9/11 world are vague.

 

[Ficklone02]

It's the ease of enabling a poor diet. We get fixated on the idea that food has to have a specific taste in order to be worth it, and eat to hunger instead of eating to hunger but also with a nutritional basis.

Ex. check out the prices of apples at a kwik start/trip vs. a bag of doritos. Apples typically cost less, same said for bananas.

Things like water are also not expensive.

Depends on your habits. Once you get in the habit of eating well your taste buds now crave good food instead of junk. Or, in my case since I live in a densely populated city and use my bike as my main transportation I don't even step foot in a convenience store anymore.

 

[madguy30]

Depends on your habits. Once you get in the habit of eating well your taste buds now crave good food instead of junk. Or, in my case since I live in a densely populated city and use my bike as my main transportation I don't even step foot in a convenience store anymore.

Well put. It's my experience but you can 'train' yourself to get used to good food.

This past March I had soda for the first time in 2 years (in a mixed drink) and it wasn't pleasant at all.

You can actually find other good stuff like fruit/nut unsalted trail mix in convenience stores as well, not as cheap as apples but still way better than chips.