While I agree that people seem way to averse to physical labor anymore.....obesity is very highly correlated with poor diets. There is little you can do in the gym to mitigate that.
Millenials/Kids today...
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While I agree that people seem way to averse to physical labor anymore.....obesity is very highly correlated with poor diets. There is little you can do in the gym to mitigate that.
I completely disagree. Gen X goes all the way back to the 1960s. Whereas millennials are commonly referred to as those having been born between the early 80s - early 2000s. The term Millennials refers to the graduation year of 2000, meaning that 1982 would be the commonly referred to start date of birth for Millennials. 1996 appears to be a popular cutoff putting Millennials at 5-20 years of age at the time of 9/11.
Length of generation is something to consider. In terms of human life, the average generation is 25.5 years. In terms of sociology, the longest generation since 1900 is 23 years with the shortest being 17 years. Using the definition you proposed, Generation X would last from about 1961 - 1995 or 34 years. I just don't see that happening. The Pew Research Center uses the dates 1981 - 1996. The men who coined the term, William Strauss and Neil Howe, place the dates as 1982 - 2004. Assuming the longest possible length using these two commonly referred dates, the generation would be 22 years in length putting Millennials between 14 years old and 37 years old. The shortest length of generation y combining these dates would put millennials between 18 years old and 36 years old.
I really don't think Millennials will be thought of as having no understanding of 9/11. In fact, many researchers make the exact opposite proposal, that Millennials were largely affected by 9/11 in terms of psychology and how they live their lives.
It's the ease of enabling a poor diet. We get fixated on the idea that food has to have a specific taste in order to be worth it, and eat to hunger instead of eating to hunger but also with a nutritional basis.
Ex. check out the prices of apples at a kwik start/trip vs. a bag of doritos. Apples typically cost less, same said for bananas.
Things like water are also not expensive.
When I was in high school kids smoked cigs not vape. When I was in high school it was impossible to get over a 4.0. When I was in high school 90% of the kids were driving at 16. Just a guess but I think more kids had after school/summer jobs. When I was in high school we didn't think twice about saying some really offensive things, I assume this has gotten better.
You would be right.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...000-and-the-type-of-work-they-do-has-shifted/
As someone who has worked at summer camps and hired people to do seasonal work, the number of applicants are down, and the retention levels throughout the summer are much harder to maintain.
Another good article.
A great quote from that article.
Paul Harrington said:
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I realized what I want to do in my late 30s after working through a few different fields.
Now to find a job doing that.......
I have a problem with this. Community service is important but I learned a ton working at Hy-Vee that I never would have learned anywhere else but a job. I can't imagine being 23, getting out of college and never having a job. I would also have a problem hiring someone that is 23 that has never worked.
I do think colleges would be smart to look for solid high school job history, or at least consider it as being on-par with other things they consider for applications. Solid work history should be an indicator of good work ethic.
Bingo -- college admissions and preparation has become such a centralizing cultural and economic touchstone that everything is about it.
Like I said, it is one of the few ways to ensure economic security for a young adult starting out in the working world in 2018 and such an obvious signal of "upper-middle class" the everything else kind of warps itself around it and only it for decision-making.
Volunteer at an animal shelter? Great for your application.
Wait tables? Useless for your application, and the money is a pittance compared to how much your income expectations change with admission to the right school. You are just going to take out loans and pay them off anyways once you land that nice job once you are through school, so why worry about work now at the cost of your future?
I do not know if they would ever say it, but there are so many parents around here, and likely in many suburbs, who essentially micromanage their kids lives in terms of academics, class choices, tutoring, activities, and volunteering decisions, consciously or subconsciously, because every useful hour has to be about college prep/admissions for the child.
If it is not, then it is essentially a waste of time.
I actually ask about those "cruddy" jobs people had before or during college when I interview entry level applicants. Having a job is an education into itself.
Working at summer camp during high school and slinging auto parts through college did a ton to prepare me for the working world after college.
Agreed and it also makes you appreciate the time when you end up getting a good job.
As a high school teacher, I would use the word smothered rather than sheltered. A kid gets one missing assignment, I've got an email waiting for me the next day with a full novels worth of information about the kid. Sometimes they get anxious, we think they might be on the spectrum, last night we had swim practice and blah blah blah, in middle school...I get it, parents get concerned about their children and want their children to succeed, but for god's sake a missing assignment is not the end of the world. A missing assignment week two of the school year is not going to ruin your child's life. Once it's been established as a pattern or an issue, yeah, step in and stop that ****.
Too often parents try to tell me all about their kids. That defeats the purpose of my classroom. I want to learn about them through their own voices. Building relationships with students and building trust between student and teacher is so crucial. Especially for kids who struggle. There's so much more I want to say or could say, but passing time is only 5 minutes.
I think communication is harder now, even though it's easier to do, if that makes sense.
Problem I had was having a sibling 5 years older. Teachers didn’t try to get to know me, because they already knew me since they had my sister. We gotta be the same right? I once wrote a 15 page paper for a history assignment. Low A almost A-. A kid two years behind me was in a pinch and asked me if he could buy an old paper from me. I sold him this one, he cut it to 8 pages and got an A-. My grading scale was steeper than his since I was the younger bro of a straight A student.
I seldom get looked in the eye or called sir. A lot of dude and bro or bud, while looking at the ground or something else.
I don't know the size of your school, but the first school I taught at was a smaller school and your story certainly doesn't surprise me. The school I teach at is so large, unless the kids are <2 grades a part or look identical, I'm rarely going to make the connection.
More articles showing IQ scores are decling.
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/06/13/iq-scores-decline/
Norwegian researchers analyzed the IQ scores of Norwegian men born between 1962 and 1991 and found that scores increased by almost 3 percentage points each decade for those born between 1962 to 1975 — but then saw a steady decline among those born after 1975.
Similar studies in Denmark, Britain, France, the Netherlands, Finland and Estonia have demonstrated a similar downward trend in IQ scores, said Ole Rogeberg, a senior research fellow at the Ragnar Frisch Center for Economic Research in Norway and co-author of the new study.
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...e-stupid-to-ignore-a-drop-in-human-intellect/
Many people will find that idea unpalatable. They can, for the moment, take solace in the knowledge that the evidence for such a genetic decline is as yet weak. The apparent reversal of the Flynn effect in a handful of countries could well be a blip rather than the start of a global trend (see “Brain drain: Are we evolving stupidity?“).
But we should keep an open mind. It could turn out that the decline is real but has nothing to do with genetic changes. It could be a warning sign that junk food is beginning to affect children’s development, or that educational reforms are having the wrong effects. So we should keep an eye on trends in intelligence. In fact, it would be stupid not to.
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/06/13/iq-scores-decline/
Norwegian researchers analyzed the IQ scores of Norwegian men born between 1962 and 1991 and found that scores increased by almost 3 percentage points each decade for those born between 1962 to 1975 — but then saw a steady decline among those born after 1975.
Similar studies in Denmark, Britain, France, the Netherlands, Finland and Estonia have demonstrated a similar downward trend in IQ scores, said Ole Rogeberg, a senior research fellow at the Ragnar Frisch Center for Economic Research in Norway and co-author of the new study.
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...e-stupid-to-ignore-a-drop-in-human-intellect/
Many people will find that idea unpalatable. They can, for the moment, take solace in the knowledge that the evidence for such a genetic decline is as yet weak. The apparent reversal of the Flynn effect in a handful of countries could well be a blip rather than the start of a global trend (see “Brain drain: Are we evolving stupidity?“).
But we should keep an open mind. It could turn out that the decline is real but has nothing to do with genetic changes. It could be a warning sign that junk food is beginning to affect children’s development, or that educational reforms are having the wrong effects. So we should keep an eye on trends in intelligence. In fact, it would be stupid not to.
One of my good friends from graduate school at Iowa State was a former high school history teacher who said he simply had to get out of the profession.
He said he loved the kids, the content and subject, teaching, coaching, and had no problems with the administrators or anything else about the job. He loved having summers off and, at first, thought he could make a solid, enjoyable career out of it.
But he told me over time the parents just wore him down. He could not deal with anymore.
To paraphrase a quote from him --
"If I get one more call about how me giving little Paul or little Susie a C on her 10th Grade history exam is going to keep her from going to Harvard, then I am simply going to beat myself to death with a shovel. The parents were the worst."
About why coaching doesn't seem like a very rewarding profession either.
Parents and students dictate way too much about what school is all about.
There's a somewhat recent Bill Burr bit about how society is applauding everything and everyone if what they're doing isn't great, and that's certainly easy to see in the education world.
