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I had a female coworker once tell me to feel the baby kick, I felt weird and said no thanks. This woman had no qualms with anything though. I have heard women talk about things like boobs getting bigger and other women things around me, laugh and ask what I think. My go to is, I'm not touching that subject.

I'm getting the feeling either I'm the only one who has been in some odd settings or only one willing to admit it. I've had probably more female co-workers than make over the years (one I was one of 20 when the other male was fired) so maybe that's it.

Carvers, I am with you that I hope no woman or person has to go through what you mentioned. I hope we keep advancing as a society.
I agree with all of those concerns except for one. If a pregnant woman who I am close to and comfortable with offers to let me feel their clothed abdomen as their baby kicks I will not hesitate if she really means it. Despite how most babies are created and the route through which most of them are delivered there is nothing sexual about a woman carrying a baby. If a woman is comfortable with someone meeting their child early and someone else in the office is uncomfortable with that, that is a "you" problem. Would we entertain a complaint by an employee who was uncomfortable because that same woman let a man in the office hold her baby after delivery?

While not a sexual thing, I do think it is a huge problem that many people think that just because a woman is pregnant their abdomen becomes public property and they can touch it without an invitation.
 
I agree with all of those concerns except for one. If a pregnant woman who I am close to and comfortable with offers to let me feel their clothed abdomen as their baby kicks I will not hesitate if she really means it. Despite how most babies are created and the route through which most of them are delivered there is nothing sexual about a woman carrying a baby. If a woman is comfortable with someone meeting their child early and someone else in the office is uncomfortable with that, that is a "you" problem.
Rule of thumb: Invited? You can accept or decline. Not invited? Hands off, whether you're male OR female. A pregnant belly is NOT an automatic invitation to touch. :)
 
I agree with all of those concerns except for one. If a pregnant woman who I am close to and comfortable with offers to let me feel their clothed abdomen as their baby kicks I will not hesitate if she really means it. Despite how most babies are created and the route through which most of them are delivered there is nothing sexual about a woman carrying a baby. If a woman is comfortable with someone meeting their child early and someone else in the office is uncomfortable with that, that is a "you" problem.

While not a sexual thing, I do think it is a huge problem that many people think that just because a woman is pregnant their abdomen becomes public property and they can touch it without an invitation.
Definitely a me problem. Just seemed off to me, probably from the incident with my secretary. Overly cautious
 
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I made a joke to a very close friend at my last job about her going to the "Milking Room" when she was pumping for her last child. I would not make that joke with any of the other ladies who used the Lactation room.
Is calling the "lactation station" wrong?
 
I agree with all of those concerns except for one. If a pregnant woman who I am close to and comfortable with offers to let me feel their clothed abdomen as their baby kicks I will not hesitate if she really means it. Despite how most babies are created and the route through which most of them are delivered there is nothing sexual about a woman carrying a baby. If a woman is comfortable with someone meeting their child early and someone else in the office is uncomfortable with that, that is a "you" problem. Would we entertain a complaint by an employee who was uncomfortable because that same woman let a man in the office hold her baby after delivery?

While not a sexual thing, I do think it is a huge problem that many people think that just because a woman is pregnant their abdomen becomes public property and they can touch it without an invitation.
I had no idea this was a thing until my wife got pregnant...why are you touching my wife? Not only that, but people stare like the baby's head is sticking out of her bellybutton or something. Folks are odd.
 
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Definitely a me problem. Just seemed off to me, probably from the incident with my secretary. Overly cautious
I didn't mean you, I meant if someone else is uncomfortable with someone touching a pregnant woman's abdomen to feel the baby when invited they have issues. This is not a sexually inappropriate situation.
 
Rule of thumb: Invited? You can accept or decline. Not invited? Hands off, whether you're male OR female. A pregnant belly is NOT an automatic invitation to touch. :)


I'm like BC in that even if invited, I'd probably still be a bit weirded out at feeling a preg coworker's belly. But maybe it's because I know I would hate that myself.

In any case, there's probably a line on the "invited to touch" too - like if a woman says "grab my boobs, they're huge today!" or a male coworker invites touching on something else that is "huge" today :D
 
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I didn't mean you, I meant if someone else is uncomfortable with someone touching a pregnant woman's abdomen to feel the baby when invited they have issues. This is not a sexually inappropriate situation.
Oh, no prob. And btw, one time when asked by a pregnant woman if I thought her boobs were bigger from pregnancy, I did offer to check. It was my wife, figure if my wife even says no, it probably wouldn't be right in the office
 
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I'm like BC in that even if invited, I'd probably still be a bit weirded out at feeling a preg coworker's belly. But maybe it's because I know I would hate that myself.

In any case, there's probably a line on the "invited to touch" too - like if a woman says "grab my boobs, they're huge today!" or a male coworker invites touching on something else that is "huge" today :D
And if someone else in the office was uncomfortable with those other invited to touch examples happening, they would have a legitimate beef because in our society touching a woman's breasts or a man's genitalia is generally considered sexual. I was strictly talking about the pregnant abdomen/kicking baby situation.

BTW, maybe you would hate it yourself, but maybe you wouldn't. You might be surprised how much of your pregnancy you have a desire to share with those you trust when you are in the moment.
 
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Is calling the "lactation station" wrong?

I don't think so. It was the not so subtle comparison to milking a cow that got her to hit me in the shoulder. But she's like my sister so it's expected.

We had a bunch of tacky swag at that job and one thing they gave us was a little cowbell with our logo on it. I put my cowbell on her desk while she was in the "milking room". She laughed her ass off and threw the cowbell back at me.
 
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I didn't mean you, I meant if someone else is uncomfortable with someone touching a pregnant woman's abdomen to feel the baby when invited they have issues. This is not a sexually inappropriate situation.

You would be surprised how sexually inappropriate someone can make it when their hand wanders around a large belly and it's close proximity to other parts. Why is anyone touching a co-worker beyond a handshake?
 
I'm like BC in that even if invited, I'd probably still be a bit weirded out at feeling a preg coworker's belly. But maybe it's because I know I would hate that myself.

In any case, there's probably a line on the "invited to touch" too - like if a woman says "grab my boobs, they're huge today!" or a male coworker invites touching on something else that is "huge" today :D

That brings up the question, Is it ok for a woman to talk about her own boobs in an office setting?
I really think they shouldn't as it would make a man uncomfortable or think that it's ok for him to do the same, which it isn't.
 
And if someone else in the office was uncomfortable with those other invited to touch examples happening, they would have a legitimate beef because in our society touching a woman's breasts or a man's genitalia is generally considered sexual. I was strictly talking about the pregnant abdomen/kicking baby situation.

BTW, maybe you would hate it yourself, but maybe you wouldn't. You might be surprised how much of your pregnancy you have a desire to share with those you trust when you are in the moment.


Every situation is unique. My 17 year old son didn't want to see his classmates ultrasounds.
 
You would be surprised how sexually inappropriate someone can make it when their hand wanders around a large belly and it's close proximity to other parts. Why is anyone touching a co-worker beyond a handshake?
Why does anyone bring their newborn babies into the workplace? They develop bonds with people they work long hours with and want to share a little bit of their lives with them. They can do that without being inappropriate. I can make an invited touch of a baby kicking belly completely appropriate. I can also make a handshake completely inappropriate. How about just using common sense?
 

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