This stuff happens every year by every coaching staff, it usually isn't thrown out for the public to consume though.
Manning fired yet?
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This stuff happens every year by every coaching staff, it usually isn't thrown out for the public to consume though.
Go ahead and waste your time being concerned with KU, LMAO. I will continue to not even think about KU football until we play their pathetic asses.
Without looking, I’m going to assume all of the prior records that were all broken this season were in seasons where we played a gauntlet full of world beaters from start to finish?
IMO, recruiting seems to improving based on some of the athletes ISU is getting on the field and recent moderate draft success. However, I don't see ISU getting over the "hump" (7-6, 8-5) without consistently putting together top 35 recruiting classes. Is this possible at ISU?, IDK, but I believe this staff can get it done.
We can say all day long, "according to 247 this is our highest ranked class ever, we can only improve on the field" but IMO individual prospect rankings seem to increase year after year, so we're really not making up any ground. A prospect ranked .885 today was a .845 3 years ago. Is this a fact? No, but by looking at prospects and their interest/offers they receive it seems likely. I may be wrong here but, it seems like there are more and more blue chip prospects, which bumps up the rest of the rankings. Scouts are becoming more generous.
I believe in ISU, and what it has to offer, especially this coaching staff, but these school's classes compared to ISU doesn't allow me to get my hopes up.
According to 247.
Georgia Tech (3-9) 19 spots ahead of ISU
Northwestern (3-9) 7 spots
Colorado (5-7) 8 spots
Kansas (3-9) only 4 spots below ISU
I know there are more factors in recruiting classes like the size of the class, new infrastructure, new coaches and all but c'mon.
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Because ISU was really disjointed on offense and usually even worse on defense for a lot of years, like how three consecutive winning seasons is extremely rare no matter the era.
This year their output vs. decent defenses usually didn't bode well with exceptions like TCU who was decent statistically. In most of their losses, the opponent held ISU to or around average points allowed. You'd think if ISU was really that great at offense, they'd go beyond those averages.
Notre Dame and KSU didn't seem to notice the records.
Really, ISU just wasn't very good the last three games. Happens.
I could only stomach reading half of this thread. I am amazed at the amount of angst that comes out of our fan base after struggling to pass the ball against the #3 pass defense in the country.
Because ISU's football program has historically (and until very recently) been terrible. Some of the schools in our conference had down year this year.
Give me a season where the only record we break is the number of W's and I'll be much happer.
When you get out of the top 10 or 15 ranked classes the ranking don't really matter. This staff has proven time and time again the ability to find players that play above their HS rankings. They are also putting players in the NFL that are playing on Sunday.
Yeah and three of them scored TDs yesterday. I can't imagine that has ever happened on all in one day for ISU before.
Has there ever been a time ISU fans have been happy about the OC? I have followed the program closely for about 25 years and their always has been a voice out there wanting to OC fired. Maybe changing OCs every 2 years isn't the way to go. If you look at this team they still have limitations. The biggest one is the line play. Hopefully rolling this line over next year will allow this team to take another step forward. There are also things this team just doesn't do well for whatever reason, if a team can take away what you do well and force you into doing things you don't want to do it makes things look really bad. Remember Patrick Mahomes in Ames.
It’s really something to watch some people’s hatred for Manning just completely override their ability to acknowledge accomplishments like shattering almost every previous ISU offensive record in one season.
I hope our coaching staff is smarter than this. IDK if you remember, but KU was ahead of us on the 4th quarter and even outgained us in total yards.
I'm very concerned when a school with literally nowhere to go but up hires a coach that has won 2 national championships.
It doesn’t matter who the OC is or how they perform. We’ve been conditioned over decades to rely heavily on the defense to win any games and some people can’t break that habit despite all evidence telling them it’s no longer the case.
O-line determines a lot of that stuff. If the staff isn't confident in getting push up front they aren't going to do it.
What three ISU players scored NFL touchdowns all in one day in the 70's?
IMO you have to look at how the class as a whole is put together. Iowa State isn't pulling in a top heavy class, they are signing kids that are pretty solid from top to bottom. CMC and his staff have proven they have a nose for the under the radar types. Recruiting is the least of my worries...
I think the issue is that many think that because ISU broke records, they had a really great offense, but really when it came to a real challenge, they were pretty average which leads to a pretty average record.
It happens...look at places like Michigan and PSU or even Bama last year...great statistically but what happens when they're challenged?
I get it but the answer is to call for a longer developing play that requires holding blocks longer and allowing the defense to get set even longer with multiple shifts?
Does it help the psyche of a team to be told they can't do something basic?
Does it help the psyche of a team to put them in position to fail rather than put them in a position to succeed on a play?
