K-State's Defensive Size

d4nim4l

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Or lack thereof...

While researching for my preview piece on WRNL (shameless plug: 2010 Game 3: Iowa State vs Kansas State Preview) I noticed that K-State has similar size problems at linebacker.

LB 56 Alex Hrebec (5-11, 247, Jr.-2L)
50 Tre Walker (6-3, 205, Fr.-HS) OR
45 Kevin Rohleder (5-11, 224, Sr.-3L)

LB 26 Jarell Childs (6-1, 225, So.-1L)
53 Blake Slaughter (5-10, 230, So.-1L)

LB 21 Troy Butler (5-11, 197, Sr.-1L)
22 Thomas Ferguson (6-0, 198, So.-1L)

Starting a guy in the middle at 225 and a guy on the weak side at 197. Their line is not very big either. Standard sized tackles but a 243 pound end on the weak side.

Their situation is not all that different than ours and I really believe we can push these guys around to start the game. If we cannot run on these guys, or if they get a sustained pass rush, we are in for a long season. No reason not to rack up some yards on the ground.
 
Isn't Troy Butler the Safety that committed to us before Chizik left and Snyder came in? We ended up losing him and getting Sims instead. Interesting to see him as a LB. No different I guess than us putting Washington there
 
Exactly.

It just goes to show we are not the only ones facing size and depth issues. These guys should be ripe for a physical game. Just like our defense is. I think what it all boils down to tomorrow will be mistakes and red zone effectiveness.
 
Exactly.

It just goes to show we are not the only ones facing size and depth issues. These guys should be ripe for a physical game. Just like our defense is. I think what it all boils down to tomorrow will be mistakes and red zone effectiveness.

It also comes down to controlling the clock. Whoever can keep the other undersized D on the field for long sustained drives will reap the rewards in the end.
 
Isn't Troy Butler the Safety that committed to us before Chizik left and Snyder came in? We ended up losing him and getting Sims instead. Interesting to see him as a LB. No different I guess than us putting Washington there
Butler is the "hybrid" safety/linebacker who's in there with the 4-2-5 alignment. He does have some good quickness on the blitz.

I agree with assessment that KSU and ISU defensive front 7 looks pretty similar. ISU WILL (I guarantee) have success with the zone read with Arnaud and Robinson. That's the worry spot I have as a K-State fan.

I do see Daniel Thomas getting his yards, but how effective will Carson Coffman be with his throwing? That's the question.

Along with this gem when it comes to the K-State QB... he's playing his first road game of 2010 in front of a ton of friends and family (played h.s. ball in KC area). Nervous? I think he will be.
 
It also comes down to controlling the clock. Whoever can keep the other undersized D on the field for long sustained drives will reap the rewards in the end.

Good point. ISU & KSU are pretty evenly matched in most areas; it all comes down to which team is better coached and follows their assignments.
 
Our 3rd LB spot is a safety. We play the 4-2-5 so Butler is a hybrid. He isn't supposed to as big as the other LB's. We'd be f*cked if one of our LB's was 197 lbs.
 
We were pretty hard after Blake Slaughter as well I believe. At least we only have one undersized starting LB.
 

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