JTS Improvements - Want More

[cyfan92]

A press box is for press.....a sky box has both press and fans.....our press box is 95% for press. with only a couple suites in it, because all our suites and club sections are located in other areas. Most other stadiums with ginormous skyboxes have suites and club sections in them because they have no other place for those sections.

Point is until we need a sky box for more than just the Press it will not be important to upgrade ours. Our press box is plenty big enough for what it is used for.

But if they want to build another club section on the West side like on the East then we will lose suites, and they will need to go somewhere, or if they want to do both suites clubs etc. These are high value sections so when the financials work it will get done, but not until.

But a few years of good football and demand for high value seats can change a lot.

Personally I would like to see the bowl complete before a skybox. I would love to see an end zone like Clemson or Ole Miss. did in their new end zones. Then worry about the press.

Agree on the suites part. Adding suites on the Eastern side of JTS like we have on the West between the upper and lower deck is the next project before any other IMO. Suites are 1000000000000x a better investment than adding poor people seats in the endzones.

A HUGE selling point of the new Stark Performance Center is the views into JTS. Do you really want to get rid of those only a couple years after that opens????

 

[quadmann]

Not to change the subject, but I thought I would share a screenshot from last night at twilight. The CSP with the reflection of the field in it's windows along with red lighting of the lower level looks awesome!

 

[cyfan92]

We got pump action

 

[Gorm]

KSU's limestone facade looks like a prison.

Story checks out...LOL.

 

[RedDog]

I dont think anyone is going to be overly impressed with grass on a hill....that is the same thing thats been there for 50 years. Come on people they regraded the same hills and put in new sod.... its not that impressive. Oh and added a new retaining wall.
Its GRASS on a HILL. In a STADIUM! Go to most high schools you see the same thing. I guess you cant see it in most college stadiums....because they actually put REAL STANDS in the STADIUM!

Some of you guys are way too in love with these Hills. They tore down a building and created a grassy area, connected the concourse, and added a retaining wall. Other than that they basically just resodded the hill. Nothing to drool about.

The Performance Center, yes, the rest of this is basically landscaping....er grass planting.

Personally on game day I do not care whether it's grass, aluminum, plastic or other that's under your ass.

 

[Pope]

K State's entire campus looks like a prison because almost all of their buildings are made from limestone (like KU's campus - rock chalk).

 

[alarson]

Agree on the suites part. Adding suites on the Eastern side of JTS like we have on the West between the upper and lower deck is the next project before any other IMO. Suites are 1000000000000x a better investment than adding poor people seats in the endzones.

Depends whether you're talking short or long term. Iowa State has grown attendance while others have shrank in large part due to long term strategies that provide many options at varying price points to get people in the stadium. At some point if we hit a ceiling and start converting seats to premium options without replacing those with additional cheap seats, we'll do the same long-term damage a lot of other schools are now feeling.

Also, we already have something akin to 'suites' for much of the east side- the jack trice club section. That isn't going away.

What i'd like to see someday is for that concept to be extended full length on the east side, the student section be converted to normal season tickets, and then NEZ seating built to hold students, probably with a larger allotment than they get now (there are a good deal more students than when the allotment was set originally).

The other day in the CW and Blum pod, they talked about surpassing Iowa in ticket sales. I think that's really the next step- having a 70k stadium of our own.

 

[Aclone]

Not to change the subject, but I thought I would share a screenshot from last night at twilight. The CSP with the reflection of the field in it's windows along with red lighting of the lower level looks awesome!

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I like yours MUCH better than the one I posted last week. Thanks!

 

[TXCyclones]

At 13:53 the pumper truck just pulled in to pump more concrete! Pouring the walkways on the plaza maybe?

 

[Cytasticlone]

So, earlier I someone pulling more, what I assume is wire, for the irrigation system. I bet sod will be installed this week still.

Look like they pumped the last of the NW retaining wall and they're also back filling the ramp area now.

I also just notice they're pour concrete towards the front of the plaza area. Must be starting to pour the sidewalks or curb areas.

It was all pretty dead earlier today but it's really busy again now.

 

[beentherebefore]

It has to be time for another drone video.

 

[Cytasticlone]

At 13:53 the pumper truck just pulled in to pump more concrete! Pouring the walkways on the plaza maybe?

They've been pouring some exterior areas straight from the trucks but they must need the pump for some harder to reach sections.

 

[Urbandale2013]

Agree on the suites part. Adding suites on the Eastern side of JTS like we have on the West between the upper and lower deck is the next project before any other IMO. Suites are 1000000000000x a better investment than adding poor people seats in the endzones.

A HUGE selling point of the new Stark Performance Center is the views into JTS. Do you really want to get rid of those only a couple years after that opens????

Isn't club seating where we are really missing out. I would think you either repurpose the western suites as another club section or it comes with a new tower/press box. Either way new suites probably have to wait until a new press box.

My strategic plan would be to do the NEZ with regular seats. You can then move the students over there. Once you do that you can expand the Jack Trice Club and sell more good seats for higher values. Whatever you do in the NEZ can leave room or incorporate the new performance center. This is also probably 5+ years down the road. Yes you are paying to move the students, but it opens up the higher value seats for people with money.

 

[Cytasticlone]

It has to be time for another drone video.

Where's the camera operator when you need 'em. Would be fun to watch them pour the plaza areas up close.

 

[quadmann]

I like yours MUCH better than the one I posted last week. Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback! I hesitated on posting because I remember seeing your post. But the lighting was just too good not to share. I think mine was aided by not having interior lighting on in the CSP and more ambient light at dusk keeping the stadium lights from washing out the colors.

 

[Lineup]

Still not into grassy knolls

 

[2speedy1]

I agree with what many are saying here. Right now the students are taking up donor seats, and that is a problem. What is going to have to happen fairly soon is not only is this going to have to change but also the student sections will have to increase some. So in turn finishing the NEZ then putting the students there, plus the band. Then completing the regular bowl seating with donors as is now. Finally adding a club section to the West side like on the East flanked by suites on both sides to make up for the lost suites on the West side.

Finally when that is done you expand the press/skybox to include a club section and suites. When the demand is needed. The NEZ is needed more than the Box at this point because the overall seating, it gives you a chance to move the students and increase their seats, plus, adding seating to every level of current ticket prices up to gold, plus adding another club section both on the West and possibly depending on the NEZ design on the North.

But it could be that they complete the NEZ bowl like they wanted to do originally to the SEZ with just a straight double deck bowl to make room for the students. A lot can be done but I think the students need to be move to the corner or NEZ at sometime in the near future.

Another reason to lose the lawn on the hills.

 

[IcSyU]

Good luck with north end zone seating. You can generate a ROI with luxury seating in the south end zone. Students will never allow you to have a ROI. At this point in time the conversion of the student section to donor seats is supplying something that isn't demanded.

 

[cycloner29]

Pouring concrete in 90+ degree weather. Not ideal.

 

[alarson]

Good luck with north end zone seating. You can generate a ROI with luxury seating in the south end zone. Students will never allow you to have a ROI. At this point in time the conversion of the student section to donor seats is supplying something that isn't demanded.

I mean, we've gotta be coming near max in terms of number of season tickets you can sell. Sure, you can just proceed to jack the prices up, but long term you do damage to the very strategies that built the fanbase in the first place, the effects of which other schools are seeing in diminishing attendance today.

Not everything is immediate ROI. When it comes to college athletics you're often talking about building ROI 20+ years down the road if you're doing it right.