JJeff Injury Updates

If I had never seen him play and just read this post, I'd look at the roster and wonder why Mulder doesn't replace Jefferson in the starting lineup!

Look, I've yelled my TV when he's turned the ball over. There have been frustrating moments, even a couple of frustrating games. But if you were to track ever time he's touched the ball over the season and sorted by positive, neutral, and negative outcomes, I believe the positive dwarf the negative. He touches the ball A LOT! Which means more opportunities for a bad outcome. Compare that to Heise, for example. The vast majority of Nate's touches result in a neutral outcome. He catches a pass, then passes it off. Joshua is depended on for making plays and he's done so all year.
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Will let Mulder's 3pt % speak for itself! :p
 
There's a lot going on with your post. But I feel like the bolded part here undermines any credibility the rest of it might have, because this stat is either lying, making things up, or just ridiculous hyperbole. Jefferson has averaged 2.5 turnovers per game this season, and 2.8 in conference play.

Jefferson's turnover rate this year for the whole season and for conference play alone are actually lower than Lipsey's respective turnover rates last season. I assume you also complained about Lipsey handling the ball too much last year?
Fair…it’s 2.5…higher than Toure in 2nd at 1.7.
 

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Why the Sun?​

  • The "Peasant" connection: In many versions of this riddle, the Sun is personified as a royal or a "King" who looks down upon the "peasants" (the people on Earth).
  • The "Not today" part: This often refers to a cloudy or rainy day when the Sun refuses to show its face, essentially telling the world below that it won't be making an appearance.
 
We're a very good team without Jefferson. We're an elite team with him.
We’re an elite team with JJeff …. And Toure being confident and knocking down shots. Toure being a threat without Jefferson has been -in my opinion- the difference. Along with Heise being more aggressive.
 
Assuming best case scenario, what level of performance can we expect? 80%? Will he be able to be an effective defender and rebounder?
Unfortunately, I’m not in the building or in contact with Joshua and the Staff!

I will say, lower ankle sprains , which it looks like what JJ is dealing with, are less invasive and recovery can be quite quick….if there is no structural damage.

High ankle sprains involve bigger ligaments and also tend to involve some tendon/muscular strain , both of which make the healing process longer.

No structural damage from the MRI is first order of business.
 
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I’ll say this in closing.

Yes, JJ has frustrated me this year in games where he didn’t look locked in…

He and the rest have been locked in for the tourney games 100%. When he’s locked in he’s damn good…and so are the rest of this team.

Maybe I’m projecting here…maybe I’m living in denial as well. I sadly don’t think he’s gonna make it back before next weekend in the finals.

IF he does I think it’ll be at a diminished capacity and I think 100% Hy-ZEEEE gives us a better chance than a hobbled JJ at 80%.

Our D relies on quickness and jumping to the ball. That’s hard to do on a bad ankle.

Our O is at its best when we’re sped up and pushing the ball. That’s gonna be hard to do with JJ on a bad wheel.

We need to plan on JJ not being available at a capacity that we need him to win.

I get positivity. And I’m literally praying for JJ’s ankle to fully heal every day.

BUT I’m also positive that we aren’t as boned as a lot of people think without him.
 
Unfortunately, I’m not in the building or in contact with Joshua and the Staff!

I will say, lower ankle sprains , which it looks like what JJ is dealing with, are less invasive and recovery can be quite quick….if there is no structural damage.

High ankle sprains involve bigger ligaments and also tend to involve some tendon/muscular strain , both of which make the healing process longer.

No structural damage from the MRI is first order of business.
Isn’t a sprain, by nature, structural damage?
 
I think if we get refs who call ticky tack fouls we might be in trouble if we play with the same speed and intensity we did against Kentucky.

I feel like we got away with a lot, not saying we were necessarily fouling a lot but you get the wrong refs and they'll see it differently.
Both teams got away with a lot, but I agree. The white guy with the wavy locks was absolutely incredulous after getting called for a hold on MM. "I have been doing that all game, why is that a foul now?!"
 
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To me, JJ was most outstanding is 3 areas: drawing FT, assists, DRB.
These 3 categories need to increase in the tournament by others (and they have).
Regarding Milan + Blake + Dom1 + Dom2: each of these 4 players have increases in all 3 areas.

Blake has 10 assists in 2 games. Milan and Nelson each have 7 FTA. Blake and Milan
each have 8 DRB. These role expansions need to continue. I would like to see JJ-style drives to the basket by Blake and Pleta (if this is in their skillset). Milan needs to crash the boards. Nelson needs to drive the lane in transition. Toure needs to be more aggressive on pullups, blowbys, and 3 pointers. It seems like Jefferson's domination made the rest of team hesitant and complacent.
Milan is often first man back to protect/stop against breaks, so if he crashes the boards??, this also allows Tamin and Toure to dribble drive and crash the offensive boards.
 
We’ve had two unicorns in Monte Morris and Tamin Lipsey.

To touch and distribute the ball as much as they did and do, the low amount of turnovers are astounding.

When looking at Braden Smith and Bobby Hurley, the top two assist leaders in NCAA history, they are also two of the higher Turnover leaders in NCAA history.

Joshua touches the ball on possessions at a very high clip. Just a guess, but I would say his turnover per touch is average or lower than average than his peers.
 
I had a grade 2 ankle sprain in September and had PT. my PT said the Rest part was outdated for sprains and I should move it as much as I could tolerate, with just simple foot circles and going to calf raises as soon as I could bear weight/pain. still had to ice quite a bit and rest between the exercises/sessions, but staying off of it for days/weeks was going to prolong the recovery or something like that.
JJeff is getting plenty of work - more than 99.99% of people do - because he has access to a 24 hour athletic training staff. When he isn't doing that and is in crowds and even sitting courtside of a D1 BB game they want that **** protected.
 
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What I'd like to know from @FriendlySpartan is how ramping back up might look. My dumb brain would think Jefferson would barely practice this week, but then how would they know if he can even run outside of the training pool, let alone play basketball? Will they employ maximum pain treatment any time he's trying to move around without a boot, or do they need to know what hurts the most and how bad?
 
Where did this "JJeff" come from? Hadn't heard anyone call him that all year, and CW dropped it a handful of times on 2 Guys like he's part of the squad.
I've been calling him that pretty much all year. But I don't know him and don't know if he cares. I don't call him Josh, because I know he doesn't like to be called Josh.
 
Unfortunately, I’m not in the building or in contact with Joshua and the Staff!

I will say, lower ankle sprains , which it looks like what JJ is dealing with, are less invasive and recovery can be quite quick….if there is no structural damage.

High ankle sprains involve bigger ligaments and also tend to involve some tendon/muscular strain , both of which make the healing process longer.

No structural damage from the MRI is first order of business.
Wonder if the stafff has him putting it in a hyperbaric chamber?
 
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