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FallOf81

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I think 3 of Campbell's last 4 classes have been his best in-state classes so far. So, nice to see this improving.

We are not back to the McCarney glory days yet. Mac had a few in-state gems and was dominating the state of Iowa after fry retired and we were in the middle of our 5 game streak.

Overall here are the numbers by coach since 2002 (missing a lot of McCarney's early years due to lack of data on 247). I used average class sizes and average # of high school recruits from IA to compare across coaches with varying number of seasons. From a ranking perspective McCarney and Rhoads had the highest average in-state ranked recruits. The last few years, Campbell has been improving on quantity and quality (although 2021 was a set back with most of the top 10 in state players going out of state or to toe). Overall, good progress.

Also, important to note that although we are not back up to Mac level success in-state, we are doing very will in the Midwest overall. In fact, over half our recruits are from the Midwest (something Mac did well early on but struggled a bit at the end). Rhoads /Chizik only had about a quarter of their classes coming out of the midwest*.

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*What I labled "Midwest": IA, IL, IN, KS, MI, MN, MO, ND, SD, NE, OH, WI (basically, B12 North + b10 and ND/SD)
So after getting our *ss handed to us for so long, and Captain Kirk going nowhere, and telling kids that, MC must be messaging quite well to these to be Seniors (and their parents) neither is he.
 

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What everyone should be able to accept is that Boomers used to be as old as all you other generations. And, speaking for myself, I've learned so much and changed so much for the better than when I thought I knew everything. Just sayin.
When I read this, I hear Clint Eastwood’s voice in my head.

I’m on your side, Clint. Damn kids. This county’s going to hell in a hand basket. :mccaffery:
 
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I was just objecting to stereotyping. That’s why I didn’t mention that Rhoads is Gen X, not a Boomer.
Not gonna lie. I thought Rhoads was more born around 1960 or so.

1967 is right at the beginning of Gen X
 
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Interesting. Our two most successful coaches in the last 40 years recruited primarily Midwest kids. I remember Rhoads was super into southern guys. I think he could’ve had more success staying local.
Lol. And one of Mac’s flaws was getting into a pissing contest with the ToE, and signing too many Iowa kids—who were dead weight on the roster.
 
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Interesting. Our two most successful coaches in the last 40 years recruited primarily Midwest kids. I remember Rhoads was super into southern guys. I think he could’ve had more success staying local.
ya.. not sure if it was really a choice to target tx/fl or if it was missing out on the midwest guys (due to lack of recruiting success), and then being forced to take what was left... I think Chizik was successful (he was from the south) targeting that region, similar to how Mac targeted Iowa, Campbell targeting b10 states. But, I do think you tend to have more success targeting your home state / region.

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Rhoads loved cleaning up the scraps of Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU etc. Even Florida, Florida State, Miami FL to some degree.