The ONE deep pass to Reynolds is a pretty small sample size to call it a deep threat.
ISU's Wide Receivers
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The ONE deep pass to Reynolds is a pretty small sample size to call it a deep threat.
Because separation is almost required to complete passes more than 10 yards downfield unless you have elite receivers with the talent and athleticism to pull the ball away from the DB's while they're draped all over them. We can throw TE drags and WR out routes for 3 to 5 yards as much as we want, the issue is that those completions rarely turn into big plays because our receivers don't have the ability to make that first man miss or get YAC. That is, if the catch is even made.
You mention slants. You know, I would LOVE to see us successfully run slants as they are very effective on short 3rd down situations, but it seems like our guys don't have the timing down to keep those throws from turning into picks. As a result, we very rarely run the slant routes. Same thing goes for screen passes. Doesn't seem like we can properly execute them even though they're very effective to keep defenses honest. Would have been nice to have the screen in our arsenal while CU was pinning their ears back and blitzing the hell out of us.
This is my BIGGEST pet peeve with our recruiting. We've been sacrificing the defensive side of the ball to bring in tons of WR's, but which ones are going to pan out?
The two JUCO's.... Young and Albert Gary... were supposedly going to step in and immediately help us out. I don't think either has seen the field? SJ was supposedly healthy this year, and was going to be BIG for us. NOT. Blanton, according to some on here, was going to surprise a lot of people this year. Again... NOT. Donnie Jennert looked great in the spring and caught the most balls I believe in the spring game, but I don't think he's seen the field either?
If you are going to put that much of your emphasis on recruiting WR's at the expense of the defensive side of the ball... they at least better be a strength of the team? But ours are probably a weakness?
Franklin, Money, and Williams are probably the only 3 that have had what I would consider "average" years. These are also the only 3 that catch almost everything thrown their way.... and go up and get the ball like it is theirs.
Our young WR's had better be very good, or else I don't understand what our scouting is looking at?
ISU's offense has been **** poor for the last several years. ISU will end up in the bottom 3 again in the Big 12.
Here are some sortable stats http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...Total&conference=I-A_BIG12&year=2010&sort=524
You can even go back several seasons. Looking at PPG in 2010 remember how many Pick 6's ISO has had along with a couple of special teams TD's. ISU would be under 20 PPG on offense only. Sadly I do not see next season being much better unless there is an accurate QB somewhere on the roster. This will make up for a lot of inabilities at a lot of other positions. I just hope the O-line is serviceable next season. I had high hopes for this year but I have very disappointed.
Here are some sortable stats http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...Total&conference=I-A_BIG12&year=2010&sort=524
You can even go back several seasons. Looking at PPG in 2010 remember how many Pick 6's ISO has had along with a couple of special teams TD's. ISU would be under 20 PPG on offense only. Sadly I do not see next season being much better unless there is an accurate QB somewhere on the roster. This will make up for a lot of inabilities at a lot of other positions. I just hope the O-line is serviceable next season. I had high hopes for this year but I have very disappointed.
Try to focus on his breakaway speed smartass. He not only creates space but has the ability to make yac.
We have to improve our personnal at Wide-out. How many drops did we have tonight? Its not as paramount as our D-Line but pretty darn close.
Its almost like this thread was an omen to the performance that was to occur tonight. How many drops did we see tonight? I can recall two critical drops by each of Josh Lenz and Money tonight, among other drops. I realize its cold out but these guys were dropping passes that were hitting them right in the numbers, or at the very least were very catchable balls. That game was there for the taking tonight, even without our d-line putting pressure on Gabbert. The receivers blew this game tonight, big time.
CycloneErik
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I don't think there's any part of our offense that we can point to and say, "That part's consistent and effective," because all parts struggle on that.
But the receivers struggle with things like getting open, catching the ball, and picking up yards no matter what. They're frustrating.
I think the most disheartening thing from receivers tonight was seeing them jogging routes in the second half. Absolutely **** poor effort on a few plays, and no QB can fix that. I can go cover Collin Franklin when he's jogging a crossing route (which happening MULTIPLE times tonight).
CycloneErik
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Can't remember which receiver it was for sure (maybe Lenz), but in the second half he broke off his route, stopped running when he was supposed to still be running toward the left side line. Tiller put the ball out there right on the sideline and the WR would have been there for it if he hadn't stopped. That was just flat out inexcusable.
that kind of stuff happens fairly often. Like 1-3 times each game. Sedrick Johnson did it twice on one drive in the NIU game (feels like yesterday :sad
Is that a product of the no huddle offense? Not saying we need to change it- but just questioning whether its a side effect of not huddling.. (QB-WR not on the same page)
**** poor offense again. The blame lies everywhere. O-line issues, dropped passes, a couple of poor decisions by AROB and poor throws by Tiller. On one play before Mahoney missed the chip shot Franklin had inside position in the end zone and Darks was literally wide open in the middle of the end zone. Darks had nobody covering him. I have no idea how both of those guys were missed, it was horrible. I am scared for next season.
oops...we threw the ball deep tonight and it still didn't help our WRs catch the damn ball. They have been inconsistent all freaking year. Drops, poor routes, poor blocking. It used to be you could count on the hands of Williams and Reynolds but even now REynolds decides not to catch the damn ball. The WR play tonight was disgusting
