ISU Gambling Megathread
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Can’t just discriminate against someone for the college they play sports for and others were eliminated as targets unless they belonged to specific male athletic team. Be like a cop pulling over someone with no probable cause because the neighborhood they live in. Not saying they aren’t guilty but that is a violation of constitutional rights if comes to be true.
Oh yeah they will still be 100% suspended. I'm not arguing that. I just think there is a case to be made on the ethics/legality of the specifics of the investigation overall.
For a fan? No lol. I'll call him an idiot for his actions but he's a kid and is going to unfortunately learn the hard way that his actions have consequences. His actions were unforgivable to his team and the coaching staff though.
Just the public threat from the lawyer to escalate like this could be good enough to get it taken care of for everyone.
It actually is from a fan perspective. Do you want to watch college football or a scripted WWE show?
Hope you’re right. Find it strange how Iowa state has got hammered the most. They still haven’t announced the other four impact players for Iowa state football yet.
Do we know they only targeted male athletes or are we just taking the attorney's word for that?
If you're in a group of cars speeding on the highway, and the cop pulls only you over do you have any type of defense if protected issues weren't involved (race/sex/etc)
Being an athlete isn't a protected class so I'm not sure that would hold up in court, but if they only targeted men that seems like it wouldn't be an issue
Defense lawyer puts out one statement and all the arm chair lawyers are like "oh my gosh they're actually innocent!"
Disagree. I don’t see anyone arguing they are innocent, but it could have been an illegal search.
Well to be fair Mandalay bay in the background sort of reminds a person of the Towers
I have no idea who was targeted. But I do think if the facts play out anything like what the lawyer has suggested they would have a problem on their hands.
To your example, of course you don't have a defense to that because of the impracticality of one cop pulling over 4-5 different people at once. But if law enforcement goes and breaks up and underage party and lets all the athletes go but writes all the band kids tickets, do you not think they'd have a problem on their hands? It comes down to selective enforcement aimed blatantly at a certain group of people.
There's no practical reason why you'd charge Dekkers, Enyi, Sauser, Ulis, etc. and not charge the fellas down at the frats who are doing the same thing. I'd be amazed if they could not, with some level of diligence, bring these same charges against hundreds, if not thousands, of other non-athletes.
Hard to tell if he's just suggesting that because all of the accused are male or actually has some foundation. One could make the argument that most athletic betting is done by males and thus the identified users were male. But of course that will all come out during discovery.
I'm literally watching Suits, so...
That is past my small farm vision but to each their own. Thx for the math though! Nowadays I consider 1,000 acres and less small.
For the umpteenth time, this isn't a conspiracy against Iowa State.
It’s really not a shot in the dark. It’s what any good defense attorney should be doing. As well as challenging any geofencing as an unconstitutional search and seizure.
I think it's also undoubtedly a message from the defense attorney to the prosecutor saying "how much time do you want to devote to prosecuting a victimless aggravated misdemeanor"
