Is it time to move on from Manning??

[scyclonekid]

Mount Union isn’t ******* big boy football like this.

 

[Cyclones1969]

So don’t tell me about his ******* resume. He didn’t have ANY OC experience before this stage, which is a bad hire for this important position.

You should calm down.

he’s not going anywhere until Matt does. So if that’s what you want, then go for it I guess

 

[Cyclones1969]

Mount Union isn’t ******* big boy football like this.

then you want Matt out too, right?

 

[scyclonekid]

Okay 1969 tell me why he was a good hire for this important position at this level.

 

[scyclonekid]

then you want Matt out too, right?

Nope

 

[cyclonehomer]

then you want Matt out too, right?

You know, I sincerely hope you aren't right about Campbell preferring to keep Manning and putting out performances like this than trying to find a different approach. You could very well be right, but I just don't want to think about what that means and what that could lead to.

 

[scyclonekid]

You know, I sincerely hope you aren't right about Campbell preferring to keep Manning and putting out performances like this than trying to find a different approach. You could very well be right, but I just don't want to think about what that means and what that could lead to.

This person is a troll

 

[Cyclones1969]

Okay 1969 tell me why he was a good hire for this important position at this level.

Because the head coach decided he was, and still is.

If you trust the head coach’s judgement, then you trust he’s only going to surround himself with people that compliment him.

We aren’t, and haven’t been, at the fire the coordinator stage to save the head coach’s job because we have had 4 straight years of success. There’s a lot of football left to be played this year as well.

if that is where you think we are, then you are also prepared to move on from the head coach

 

[Cyclones1969]

You know, I sincerely hope you aren't right about Campbell preferring to keep Manning and putting out performances like this than trying to find a different approach. You could very well be right, but I just don't want to think about what that means and what that could lead to.

if this is what you even consider thinking about after the last four years, you aren’t thinking logically at all.

 

[cyclonehomer]

if this is what you even consider thinking about after the last four years, you aren’t thinking logically at all.

Tom Manning is behind the times as a play caller, and just because Iowa State had dog water offenses for decades and he's set records compared to those doesn't make him the best we can do at the position.

 

[scyclonekid]

Coaches change coordinators all the time it doesn’t mean the coach goes too, for ***** sake. Also I never said I was as ready to move on from Campbell *******.

 

[WhoISthis]

Because the head coach decided he was, and still is.

If you trust the head coach’s judgement, then you trust he’s only going to surround himself with people that compliment him.

We aren’t, and haven’t been, at the fire the coordinator stage to save the head coach’s job because we have had 4 straight years of success. There’s a lot of football left to be played this year as well.

if that is where you think we are, then you are also prepared to move on from the head coach

Is Manning doing as good of job as the DC? And it is generally regarded as harder to manufacture talent and advantages on defense.


What would we think of CMC if his DC were performing at Manning's level the last 5 years? Would CMC be on the hotseat?

 

[Cyclones1969]

Coaches change coordinators all the time it doesn’t mean the coach goes too, for ***** sake. Also I never said I was as ready to move on from Campbell *******.

if you’re expecting Tom Manning to go, as long as Matt Campbell is the head coach at Iowa State, you are.

 

[scyclonekid]

if you’re expecting Tom Manning to go, as long as Matt Campbell is the head coach at Iowa State, you are.

Nopenot at all, head coaches make changes all the time while retaining their position.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Is Manning doing as good of job as the DC? And it is generally regarded as harder to manufacture talent and advantages on defense.


What would we think of CMC if his DC were performing at Manning's level the last 5 years? Would CMC be on the hotseat?

I’m sure you’d be content if Iowa State was still 3-9 to 6-6 every year so you could continue to pretend to be smarter than everyone else.

but none of that has happened. All of these guys, and players, have built a program where there wasn’t one.

 

[cyclonehomer]

I’m sure you’d be content if Iowa State was still 3-9 to 6-6 every year so you could continue to pretend to be smarter than everyone else.

but none of that has happened. All of these guys, and players, have built a program where there wasn’t one.

I am begging you to set your sights as high as the stated ones of the team. If Iowa State wants to compete at the highest level of the sport, and I believe they do, an upgrade to a creative OC who can generate explosive plays is going to be necessary. Tom Manning seems to do a pretty good job at developing offensive lineman, but in no way has he done anywhere near the job Heacock has done.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Nopenot at all, head coaches make changes all the time while retaining their position.

You should call the coaches show on Monday, and let him know then.

I don’t know why this is so hard for you to understand. As long as Matt Campbell is the coach at Iowa State, he will have who he wants on his staff. He’s known Tom Manning since he coached him at Mount Union. He’s not anywhere, unless it’s with Matt to another school.

if this is something that wounds you to your soul, you had better find a band aid. It isn’t changing

 

[cyclonehomer]

You should call the coaches show on Monday, and let him know then.

I don’t know why this is so hard for you to understand. As long as Matt Campbell is the coach at Iowa State, he will have who he wants on his staff. He’s known Tom Manning since he coached him at Mount Union. He’s not anywhere, unless it’s with Matt to another school.

if this is something that wounds you to your soul, you had better find a band aid. It isn’t changing

Why is Tom Manning paying to be on CF? Go read a study on EPA from passing vs running on 1st and 10, Tom.

 

[Cyclones1969]

I am begging you to set your sights as high as the stated ones of the team. If Iowa State wants to compete at the highest level of the sport, and I believe they do, an upgrade to a creative OC who can generate explosive plays is going to be necessary. Tom Manning seems to do a pretty good job at developing offensive lineman, but in no way has he done anywhere near the job Heacock has done.

You’re having a completely different conversation, than what is reality here

the only person who has a vote on this is Matt Campbell. He wants Tom Manning to be the offensive coordinator. That’s not changing.

The only current way he won’t be the offensive coordinator if he gets a better job offer, or he goes to Michigan with Matt

 

[WhoISthis]

I’m sure you’d be content if Iowa State was still 3-9 to 6-6 every year so you could continue to pretend to be smarter than everyone else.

but none of that has happened. All of these guys, and players, have built a program where there wasn’t one.

So you're saying this program is 3-9 to 6-6 if the DC were performing at Manning's level? Agree, and that is why it is reasonable to expect some tough conversations to be had


You have such a low opinion of the program. Are you even a fan?