is it just me or does this team

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  1. theyork

    theyork Well-Known Member

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    have zero offensive game between the paint and the 3pt line? watching us play OU, OSU and now WVU, it became clear that we almost never shoot a mid range jumper, and rarely ever actually make them when we do.

    i guess it doesn't matter as long as we win. just doesn't seem like we even try the mid range game.
     
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  2. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    It's by design.
     
  3. Rabbuk

    Rabbuk Well-Known Member

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    That's the worst shot in basketball.
     
  4. gocubs2118

    gocubs2118 Well-Known Member

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    An 18 foot jumper is the lowest percentage shot in basketball. Fred doesn't want his guys shooting those.
     
  5. Mr Janny

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    This. A mid-range shot is statistically a terrible shot to attempt. 3 pointers and in the paint are where you get the most bang for your buck.
     
  6. Rabbuk

    Rabbuk Well-Known Member

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    Expected value on an 18 foot jump shot is way lower than either a layup or a 3 point shot. It's not a lower percentage shot than a 3 pointer but it's expected value is lower.
     
  7. DreamyCy

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    Hoiberg has made it clear he isn't a fan of those shots so it's not that surprising we don't shoot many.
     
  8. NATEizKING

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    On the contrary, our opponents shoot a lot of mid-range shots and I'm glad we have forced them to take those. I never mind giving up a long range two.
     
  9. Incyte

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    I would have liked Long to pull up at the elbow or even a little closer rather than trying to go the rim on his drives. Getting to the rim isn't his game IMO.
     
  10. ISUCY23

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    3 pointers and layups. Fred's recipe for success.
     
  11. CoKane

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    I'm pretty sure we took plenty against OSU, especially in OT when we absolutely needed points
     
  12. NATEizKING

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    He didn't choose the best of times to drive in, the paint was pretty crowded on his drives.

    He needs to decide between taking it all the way to the rim or doing a jump stop pull up when he gets in close. He seems to put up the shot from too far away for how fast he is still moving on his drive.
     
  13. gogagig

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    If we were taking shots between the paint and the 3 point line, you'd be complaining about why this team doesn't either try to drive it in under the basket, or take it out for the 3.
     
  14. CornFedIABoy

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    The mid-range jumper is the worst shot in basketball. I'm glad we don't take them.
     
  16. mtowncyclone13

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    last night it looked like MT took two mid-range shots that were both floaters. That doesn't seem like a designed play based on MT's skillset.
     
  17. Cydkar

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    It's all part of the plan based on advanced statistics.
     
  18. pulse

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    Sure its a great shot if you're good at it, but nobody on our team is. I think Isaiah Taylor torched us with mid-range pull ups, but he's not on our team.
     
  19. Rhoadhoused

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    Our offense is literally designed to take as many layups and 3s as possible with very few long 2 point jumpers.

    And our defense is literally designed to force them to take as many 2 point jumpers as possible.

    That would explain it.
     
  20. ISUCyclones2015

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    We've gotten so good that we're ******** about this now? I'll take it
     

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