Iowa/Iowa St.

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  1. cyrocksmypants

    cyrocksmypants Well-Known Member

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    You’re a Wisconsin fan. Don’t worry about it.
     
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  2. madguy30

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    Because they're hok fans.

    For the record I'd rather see Fran get jacked in some other game.

    He deserves it for teaching his players to start fights and foul in order to succeed, along with his other antics that you Hok fans fully support.
     
  3. LLCoolJansma

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    Any team in the country can win on a night if they are hitting three's and the other team isn't shooting well. Upsets happen just look at Evensville at UK and SFA at Duke.

    The game will come down to ISU controlling the pace of game (faster) and breaking their zone with P&N's. I don't believe Iowa has the athletes to keep up with ISU thus must "junk" up the game and force a low scoring half court game. ISU can beat EIU even if they are hitting 3's if they play fast and get extra possessions like the DePaul and Michigan games and If they are just shooting normal it can be a blow out.
     
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  4. CycloneVet

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    Hustle to every 50-50 ball and playing physical defense and get in these guys pockets is a must. JorBo or whomever else can’t score if they can’t get the ball in good spots.
     
  5. BillBrasky4Cy

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    We have let Iowa out hustle us for like the last 4 meetings and that's really frustrating. Those effort plays matter and tend to lead to momentum swinging plays. I do feel like this years Iowa State squad has been better in that department this year though.
     
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  6. intrepid27

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    I watched most of the Minnesota game. Pitino chose to double team and sometimes triple team Garza and left Weiskamp and Jarbo wide open. Not a good plan.
     
  7. BillBrasky4Cy

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    Meh, you can counter a teams good shooting night but if you are as inefficient as Minnesota was the other night you don't stand a chance.
     
  8. BillBrasky4Cy

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    Minnesota played slow on both ends of the court. Hell, Iowa was getting layups and transition three's off of made baskets.
     
  9. CloneLawman

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    Merry Christmas, Dognuts. Please note that this thread is NOT posted in ISR.
     
  10. Tornado man

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    Or perhaps that's because Michigan plays better D than Minnesota. There's a direct correlation.
    The saying of "our 3 pt shots just didn't fall - we had good looks" is such a throwaway line.
    If you're not hitting from behind the line, work to get better shots closer in.
    As the great Gary Thompson said of most 3 pt attempts: "you can get that shot anytime."
     
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  11. stormchaser

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    Some of our best defense we can play against Garzilla is trying to get him in foul trouble. We can't let the hawks get hot from the 3.
     
  12. Baseline23

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    My major emphasis, were I Steve Prohm, would be to have my players watch the entire re-play of last year's game in Iowa. Like I just did myself.

    Special emphasis on the 25 times they allowed CMac to slam his way into the lane and open up "volleyball-ball" for Iowa offensive rebounds. An then the 15 loose balls Iowa beat them to.
    And then, maybe watch the 45 or so free-throws we missed (yeah, slight exaggeration).
    After that, OK, fine, talk about Garza for this week.
     
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  13. Cyinthenorth

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    Michigan got it right last week: Let Garza get his and cover everyone else up. I don't have the box score in front of me, but Garza had at least half the teams 80+ points, and I don't think anyone else scored in double figures, or if they did it was in garbage time. I think that is the way to go. But hopefully we can do it without 2/3 of our bigs quickly picking up fouls like Michigan did. Didn't see much of the game, so I don't know the nature of the fouls/how the refs were calling the game.
     
  14. VeloClone

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    Just off the top of my head, I think Garza had 44 in that game.

    I worry about George. I think Garza uses the pump fake a lot and George will be pumped up and may bite. I would rather he just play solid positional defense to start and save the shot blocking for other people's players and maybe Garza later in the game.

    Is it too much to ask that sometime in the future officials get the block/charge call right when a player leaves his feet and goes straight up (verticality?) that it is a charge when an offensive player jumps right into him? This shouldn't be as hard to get right as it seems to be.
     
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    Good work @Cydkar
     
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  17. Baseline23

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    Exactly. I would set George in front of a dry erase board, and make him write 1750 times: "Do NOT Leave My Feet On Garza's Pump Fakes."

    then, for extra credit:
    "The best way to block a post player's shot is to jump AFTER the offensive player." [Bill Russell quote, btw]
     
  18. VeloClone

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    #358 VeloClone, Dec 11, 2019
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    Especially when said offensive player wears CMUs for shoes.
     
  19. Cydkar

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    -4 on Bovada. Nothing on Elite yet. Don't have a Billy Hill account.
    No ML yet but that should be +150 for Iowa. Too good to pass up as a defense bet.
     
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  20. SEIOWA CLONE

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    True, but only to a point, in the SFA defeat of Duke, SFA shot 2/10 from 3 point line, they won in overtime because Duke allowed them to stick around, Duke shot a higher percentage in 2 pointers, 3 pointers and free throws. In the Kentucky loss, Evansville was 9/30 from 3, but the Wildcats were only 4/17.

    If you look at the Iowa losses this year, one stat jumps off the page, ability to hit 3 points in the wins, and not hitting them in the losses. Against San Diego state they did well and lost, 9/23, against DePaul 6/18, against Michigan 3/15. In their wins they were averaging over 10 made three pointers a game.

    For ISU to win, we have to be able to hit 3 points, need around 10, and hold Iowa to 6 or less. If we do that, we will win the game.
     
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