It pretty clear how this is going to go. The problem is so wide spread that the NCAA will "punish everyone" and in essence punish no one. Business as usual after that. I mean, it really isn't news that NCAA recruiting is slimy. So now there is proof. We have all seen the smoke for years. I guess we now are starting to see the actual flames.
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I suspect they will change some rules. For example, I'm going to bet that the rules for players meeting and signing with agents is going to change to be more in line with how it is for college baseball and hockey. There's sort of a double standard there, anyway, that's just begging for someone to test with a lawsuit. I'm guessing the NCAA will try to head that off at the pass.
That's most likely the MSU, Duke, and Arizona approach, but why would Texas decide to now sit Davis?
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I'm not convinced Shaka is all that Smart.
And I can see it staying 'alleged' until at least the NCAA tourney gets done.
I'm not convinced that just because the FBI's involved, that the politics/money aspect isn't still going to play a big part at least short term.
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Sadly, you're probably right. The NCAA doesn't want anything getting in the way of the tournament, which is their sacred cash cow. They own the broadcasting rights, and make just shy of a billion dollars off of it every year. They will protect it at all costs.
Feels to me like it's basically a warning that officials really are watching for this kind of thing and could come down hard if they wanted to.
But are they really going to do away with someone like Coach K if it came up?
Because the list is part of an investigation by the FBI, not the ncaa. The ncaa would need to investigate on thier own. Names on a list dont mean that a violation happened, just that they probably happened. To punish, the ncaa would have to investigate and prove that violations actually happened.
Let's put it this way...if you found a list in a filing cabinet that said "people who stole money", should the people on that list be arrested based solely on being on that list? No, obviously not.
What if it goes a third possible way and Clifton is just a giant liar and bleep talker who conned his employer like he conned everyone else and was really just pocketing most of the money he allegedly loaned to all these players?
Rushing to the judgement and punishment phase prior to investigating rarely ends well.
Translation, the NCAA is three weeks away from the tournament where they collected a ~$6 Billion dollar paycheck. No way in heck they are doing anything now.
It is also just the very beginning of the situation. It wouldn't be fair or logical to start handing out partial punishments here and there. They are in a HUUUUUGEEE mess.
It is also just the very beginning of the situation. It wouldn't be fair or logical to start handing out partial punishments here and there. They are in a HUUUUUGEEE mess.
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You're about $5 Billion too high, but there's no doubt that the NCAA doesn't want anything interfering with the NCAA tournament. Not when they get such a huge percentage of their yearly revenue from it.
The ncaa investigative unit is slow and terrible at their job. If they started today it would take them 2 years to sort this out. The tourney starts in 2 weeks. No giant conspiracy needed to prevent a ruling by tourney time.
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Yeah, much harder to hide a $100k payment from the FBI. The NCAA would have no way to verify that something like that happened.
One counter-point to this. It doesn't matter to the teams that have to vacate the wins, but it could matter to the team that lost to a team using ineligible players.
Of course they are slow and terrible, however, if they don't ever punish anyone before the games happen then the whole "vacating" wins makes any punishment a joke. We just need to design a whole new system in the next 7 years and dissolve the collusion known as the NCAA.
The polar opposite. A fan base that watched the ncaa investigate Billy Preston for months and STILL never made a ruling.
