Hallice Cooke on Prohm

I'm not sure on this one, he recruited the guys that Rhoads won with those first four seasons.
5-19 record and some of the most undisciplined football I've seen played at ISU over the years and that is spanning over some other bad seasons too. The fact Rhoads won with his players tells you what kind of coach Chiz was. Let's not forget other than the 1 season at Auburn where Cam Newton basically won him the Natty he was 19-19 the other 3 seasons and never a HC again.
 
Tim Floyd was a southerner who succeeded here; like many things in life it really just depends on the person.

Steve always came across as a more meek personality, and probably wasn’t able to be as firm and direct with his players the way Otz is. Guys like THT and Bolton, while talented, probably needed more of that.

I liked him and was pulling for him to succeed, but when it all fell apart it wasn’t a total surprise.
Tim Floyd doesn’t get enough love around here.
 
Has there ever been another coach who simply just didn't have "it" like Steve Prohm at ISU? It didn't feel right from the start, had moments where it was like "ok this might work" but then ultimately was a massive dud that cratered the program.
McDermott is the all time example.

Prohm won a Big 12 tournament with guys he recruited. McDermott never even made the NIT, and never beat a ranked team in Hilton. His tenure here was remarkably bad. Even bad coaches like Morgan and Prohm had big wins in Hilton, and not only qualified for, but advanced in the NCAA tournament.

Greg McDermott's failure at ISU gets harder to fathom with every passing year. He won everywhere but here. Every other post-Orr ISU coach but him won on some meaningful level. He's a good coach, this is a good job, but the combination was terrible.
 
Steve was a great guy just wasn't a good long term fit for ISU. Imagine TJ with the talent he had that first season....
 
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I don't think CSP handled things (among other) in a concrete, direct way but didn't McKay have issues with not attending practice or something?

I think it involved some sort of injury too but I thought that was a thing and it was what led to his suspension.
 
The one Cooke tweet in the OP had this one next in the thread. Seems pretty straightforward why he was suspended and didn't travel. He didn't do his punishment, while Simeon Carter did.




That team is definitely a "what if," but I agree with others that there would be some limitations regardless of the coach. Tough to fill out a roster when getting hired in June, and the Naz injury and surgery hampered depth even more.

I always laugh a bit when people freak out about Jefferson or Lipsey's minutes this year. I know this team is at a different level of intensity, so it makes some sense, but the 15/16 had 4 players all averaging more minutes in conference play than Lipsey this year, and McKay was the only usual starter on that team who averaged less than 30 minutes in conference play (at 29.9). It is just very revealing about how limited the 15/16 team's depth was.
  • Morris: 39.9 MPG in conference play
  • Thomas: 36.6
  • Niang: 34.2
  • Jefferson: 33.2
  • Nader: 32.9
  • Lipsey: 32.1
  • Momcilovic: 31.3
  • McKay: 29.9

But it can be argued that TJs teams expend more energy on defense so the minutes are harder.
 
Yeah, Prohm was bad and in over his head, but McKay of all folks was part of the problem. Dude didnt want to be accountable. Probably a bit on Fred for the lax accountability and put Prohm in a bad spot. He was just, as someone said earlier, a meek personality.


Yes, McKay did not want to be accountable in practice or going to class. Poison on the bench. Add that along with Naz being out the entire season due to hip surgery, 15-16 was never going to be what people dreamed.
 
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