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I'm not sure on this one, he recruited the guys that Rhoads won with those first four seasons.Chizek
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5-19 record and some of the most undisciplined football I've seen played at ISU over the years and that is spanning over some other bad seasons too. The fact Rhoads won with his players tells you what kind of coach Chiz was. Let's not forget other than the 1 season at Auburn where Cam Newton basically won him the Natty he was 19-19 the other 3 seasons and never a HC again.I'm not sure on this one, he recruited the guys that Rhoads won with those first four seasons.
Rule #1 of any new job: “Always follow a Putz.”TJ should send Prohm a fruit basket for setting the bar so low.
Tim Floyd doesn’t get enough love around here.Tim Floyd was a southerner who succeeded here; like many things in life it really just depends on the person.
Steve always came across as a more meek personality, and probably wasn’t able to be as firm and direct with his players the way Otz is. Guys like THT and Bolton, while talented, probably needed more of that.
I liked him and was pulling for him to succeed, but when it all fell apart it wasn’t a total surprise.
Tim Floyd doesn’t get enough love around here.
McDermott is the all time example.Has there ever been another coach who simply just didn't have "it" like Steve Prohm at ISU? It didn't feel right from the start, had moments where it was like "ok this might work" but then ultimately was a massive dud that cratered the program.
I feel like McKay’s issues were McKay’s alone, not Prohms.I don't think CSP handled things (among other) in a concrete, direct way but didn't McKay have issues with not attending practice or something?
I think it involved some sort of injury too but I thought that was a thing and it was what led to his suspension.
I feel like McKay’s issues were McKay’s alone, not Prohms.
The one Cooke tweet in the OP had this one next in the thread. Seems pretty straightforward why he was suspended and didn't travel. He didn't do his punishment, while Simeon Carter did.
That team is definitely a "what if," but I agree with others that there would be some limitations regardless of the coach. Tough to fill out a roster when getting hired in June, and the Naz injury and surgery hampered depth even more.
I always laugh a bit when people freak out about Jefferson or Lipsey's minutes this year. I know this team is at a different level of intensity, so it makes some sense, but the 15/16 had 4 players all averaging more minutes in conference play than Lipsey this year, and McKay was the only usual starter on that team who averaged less than 30 minutes in conference play (at 29.9). It is just very revealing about how limited the 15/16 team's depth was.
- Morris: 39.9 MPG in conference play
- Thomas: 36.6
- Niang: 34.2
- Jefferson: 33.2
- Nader: 32.9
- Lipsey: 32.1
- Momcilovic: 31.3
- McKay: 29.9
True, but Prohm was elite at weirdly not being able to handle guys like McKay and Dendy.
I'm thinking Dendy was GMAC. Lard IMO was Prohm's biggest mistake as far as handling players.
Yeah, Prohm was bad and in over his head, but McKay of all folks was part of the problem. Dude didnt want to be accountable. Probably a bit on Fred for the lax accountability and put Prohm in a bad spot. He was just, as someone said earlier, a meek personality.seems like a lot of former players really hated prohm lol
They don’t make that sweet 16 if Chris Beard and Arkansas Little Rock had lost to Purdue in the Round of 64. Purdue was way too big.Sweet 16 wasn't squat, but they did underachieve pretty badly in the regular season
Yeah, Prohm was bad and in over his head, but McKay of all folks was part of the problem. Dude didnt want to be accountable. Probably a bit on Fred for the lax accountability and put Prohm in a bad spot. He was just, as someone said earlier, a meek personality.