Haliburton NBA

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  1. CyHans

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    IMO he needs to come back and work on his game for the next two years then go to the NBA. But this just might be my own selfish desires speaking....
     
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  2. Statefan10

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    This is not me being disrespectful towards you, but there are people whose job is to find talent and evaluate them, and they have Halliburton as a high draft pick. For the most part, they usually know what they're talking about.
     
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  3. jcisuclones

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    Yup, just heard it via word of mouth from people who talk to his dad regularly.
     
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  4. jsb

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    he clearly said it tongue in cheek. We ALL selfishly hope he comes back for 2 years.
     
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  5. CascadeClone

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    If you don't think he is ready, imagine him playing for the Warriors:

    TH would have 50 assists per game, be everyone's favorite teammate, and lead the league in smiles.
     
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  6. Statefan10

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    This year's Warriors team? Lol
     
  7. CapnCy

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    Great points.

    It's also so hard for any of us to "put ourselves in his shoes" as so few have a comparable situation and we, inevitably, layer our own experiences to his. Meaning, "i'd do anything to be in college again...enjoy it!"

    There is not good comparison, but if an engineer had a dream job of working for NASA and did an internship their fresh year and then were told "we'd hire you this year, no degree and the salary will be CEO pay" no one would tell the person to enjoy college.
     
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  8. CapnCy

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    Agree...that's the thing...the later first round stuff becomes a gamble and potential to have to "work your way up" through G League or whatever...but top 10 lock and your signing bonus and first year contract (and endorsements opportunities) set up a worse case scenario or like $5 million dollars guaranteed.
     
  9. VeloClone

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    This got me to thinking so I looked at the three point shooting numbers. Keep in mind that the overall numbers include all games (including conference) while conference is (obviously) just conference games. Note also that when looking at trends, the Auburn game was right in the middle of the conference games played thus far. I'll list any notables from the Auburn game as well.

    Player...Non Con...Conference
    TEAM .317 (163-514) .325 (62-191) [Auburn 7-27]
    Haliburton .423 (30-71) .404 (19-47) [Auburn 2-5]
    Bolton .276 (16-58) .422 (19-45) [Auburn 2-7]
    Jacobson .308 (8-26) .286 (2-7) [Auburn 0-1]
    Nixon .268 (19-71) .133 (4-30) [Auburn 2-6]
    Griffin .296 (8-27) .400 (4-10) [Auburn 1-3]
    Lewis ..461 (6-13) .111 (1-9) [Auburn 0-2]
    Grill .250 (4-16) .077 (1-13) [Auburn 0-3]
    Jackson .273 (9-33) .423 (11-26)
    Young .000 (0-1) .500 (1-2)

    So the players with the biggest drops since conference play started (conf + Auburn) are:
    Lewis .545 to .091 -.454
    Grill .308 to .063 -.245
    Nixon .262 to .167 -.095
    Jacobson .320 to .250 -.070

    About the same:
    TEAM .320 to .317 -.003
    Haliburton .424 to .404 -.020

    Biggest gains:
    Jackson .273 to .423 +.150
    Bolton .275 to .404 +.129
    Griffin .292 to .385 +.093
    Young .000 to .500 *insignificant sample size
     
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  10. Clonefan32

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    I just can't get over the "come back and work on his game" crowd. Here's a mock draft that came out earlier today that his him 5th:

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-mock-draft-2020-trade-deadline-warriors-lamelo-ball-knicks-pick/1jwi34jf5ay9i118yjrz207qbx

    Last year's 5th overall pick, Darius Garland, signed a 2 year, 13 million dollar deal with all 13 million dollars guaranteed. He could never play a game and make 13 million dollars. I don't care how many things you could improve on, that's life changing money you have to go get.
     
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  11. VeloClone

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    Do you suppose the NBA would pay me $13M to never play a game? I am ready and willing.
     
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  12. Pat

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    I think there is a wild overestimation, particularly amongst non-NBA watchers, about the expected value of a lottery pick. There seems to be a correlation with people who think they know better than NBA scouts. Tyrese in 3 years projects to the type of guard that contenders are trading multiple draft picks to get.
     
  13. Cloneon

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    One may be able to finish their degree at anytime, but one will NEVER be able to live the true college experience at an older age. If I were him, I'd buy a hefty insurance policy, take another year to learn and bring the team back to expected levels, and earn a B12 championship, B12 MVP, high seed in the NCAA Tourney, a phenomenal run, all leading to a lottery pick. Buy, hey, that's just if it were me.
     
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  14. VeloClone

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    I was thinking about this earlier. If the NCAA wanted to do even just a little bit to stem the tide of talent leaving early for the NBA they would allow programs to fund insurance policies for top players. A player who really wanted to stay in school but didn't want to risk losing all future earnings to a career ending injury would have one less disincentive to staying. It wouldn't change the majority of decisions, but would help those who truly wanted to continue to experience college.
     
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  15. Pat

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    One only gets one chance to be a 20 year old multimillionaire, too.
     
  16. CloneGuy8

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    I know it would be great for us as fans if he comes back next year, but I hope he goes pro. Go get paid
     
  17. davehon

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    If you turned down 13 million dollars to get the college experience you are an idiot...you don't think a 20 year old kid with that kind of money can't find a college town and get an experience.....ISU best bet for TH to come back is for TH to literally break his leg and that would be terrible for him.
     
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  18. clone136

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    Prohm should not let him come back.

    If he is guranteed top 10, it would be irresponsible to come back.
     
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  19. snowcraig2.0

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    I think this is a case where shutting it down would be a good thing for him. Nothing to be gained and he's playing his way out of the lottery because the team is so bad.
     
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  20. madguy30

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    He should go if he's going to go high.

    Unfortunate that we didn't get to see him be able to blossom fully but that's how it goes.
     

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