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Discussion in 'Mens Basketball' started by Cyinthenorth, Jan 18, 2020.
sorry just don't think he is ready, skinny, not strong, two many fancy passes that miss
I watch a lot of NBA games. He doesn't need to create his own shot or play with the ball in his hands a significant amount of the time to have high value in the NBA.
NBA rosters in general are a couple guys that can create their own shot and then surround them with role players (3 and D types and bigs that can play in the pick and roll on both ends).
TH's value in the NBA is what he brings away from the ball plus ability to take care of it when the ball is in his hands. He has the length and skill set to guard multiple positions and shoots at a high level.
The NBA isn't excited about TH because they project him to be James Harden. They are excited about TH because he's a really good piece that fits around James Harden. Even if he just defends at a high level with his length and continues to shoot it like he does he has huge value.
I agree that skill set usually isn't exactly top 5, but like you said it's a weak draft. He'll contribute long before year 3-4.
To nitpick: Tinsley>> everyone else in ball handling.
Where Morris outshined Tinsley was in passing accuracy and decision making (and shooting).
I think it will be crucial to either get a transfer with high level shooting ability or for the guys on the team to really develop their 3 point shots.... Tyrese will definitely be a MUCH better facilitator with players around him that can actually consistently knock down the 3 point shot.
I think I have seen some progress from this team in that department though, Jackson and Bolton have been knocking down more 3s lately and hopefully Javan Johnson is a significant upgrade over Nixon (good lord please).
It will probably also depend on Conditt developing and being more of a force inside.... He has regressed a little lately I would say.
They see him with better players around him which would make him an ever better facilitator, an improved jumper, and 15 more lbs of muscle. He is a great starting PG for the NBA.
I think he would truly benefit by coming back another year, but at the same time, I don’t see him benefiting by coming back with this current staff. Plus, his dad has already said that he’s leaving after this year.
when did his dad say that?
John said that?
That’s what I’ve heard.
Oh I thought you meant he like publicly said that. But yeah last I heard Tyrese is leaving and rightfully so
My biggest fear is that we see a repeat of THT to a slightly smaller extent. That is the worst case scenario for both ISU and the players. If he goes and is selected where expected then I'm all for him living the dream.
Agree. Was going to point this out. I laughed when I saw Morris ball handling above Tinsley, was like did he even watch Tinsley? lol...he ran circles around entire Colorado team 1 game. He made them look like pre-schoolers.
They all are different point guards in a way. Tinsley's driving ability and ability to break down defenses was solid. Morris had a patient knack to utilize the pick n roll very well. Loved how he improved his shooting from freshman to senior year. TH is a disruptive lengthy guy who has fantastic court vision. Although, improvements will need to be made in ball handling to create his own shot and take guys on the dribble-drive. I also would think once he adds more strength, I wonder if he'll correct his shot? The lower shoulder push shot would get blocked in the NBA more often one would think.
He won’t come back but his quote after the game Wednesday makes it pretty clear he’s hasn’t checked out yet.
Any of this logic flies out the door when you are likely a Top 10 pick. Go get your money. It's there just sitting for you to take.
Care to throw a bone?
it isn’t hard to find. Go look at travis hines Twitter.
Ya I don't use that garbage.
Tinsley steals current version of Haliburton's lunch and eats it too.
Halliburton talked about how him and this team is going to keep fighting and give it their all every game no matter what their overall record is.
If he is guaranteed Lottery than its a no brainer...If he's a late first rd pick then nothing will change that thiihs year or next probably...Meaning he would still be a first rd pick next year as wel
Totally disagree..Tinsley was a great starting PG..the best PG with ball in his hands in history of this program IMO.
Teams don't want to draft a kid in the Lottery and pay them Lottery money to be a "Nice compliment player" lol... They draft kids in the lottery with the thought of being a stud player one day...Some pan out..some don't.
I don't see TH game changing much...He's not aggressive offensively...is an average ball handler in college....isn't overly athletic. When we see him take the ball all the way and dunk and announcers are in ah! because he's a pg!..Yea that doesn't work in the NBA.
I don't know that fans realize just how good players are in the NBA. It has taken Monte 3+ years to work into starting and if you put (this years Monte) on this ISU team we have a lot more wins I can tell you that.
I love TH..great kid..love that he loves ISU and the fans.
I'll gladly eat row if we revive this thread in a few years and TH is lighting it up in the league...but i'm guessing I won't.