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Discussion in 'Mens Basketball' started by Cyinthenorth, Jan 18, 2020.
Ya I agree, I was saying it tongue in cheek.
There are some pretty terrifying numbers on this list.... Although I do like to see Bolton's and Jackson's numbers going up. That gives me some optimism for next year
Ugh,I feel sick. He's tearing up on the bench.
About 1 million per tear at this point
Over under on games TH plays the rest of this season? I'll set the number at .5
This season at Iowa State couldn't be better preparation for playing with this year's warriors team
Out two games it sounds
I’ll say over, because I feel like Tyrese is the type of guy who would want to play if he is able.
I'd guess if it isn't broken he'll play again. And I don't think a sprained wrist will kill his draft prospects.
Sam Vecenie mock draft from the athletic
10. Phoenix Suns
Tyrese Haliburton | 6-5 guard | 19 years old, sophomore | Iowa State
Really detailed scouting report on Tyrese. Weaknesses include isolation and pick & roll offense, and some defensive things. No real talk about draft position.
Jay Bilas must not be keeping up with these mock drafts. During the Kentucky game last night he was asked who the top point guards in the country were- he rattled off about seven names, no mention of Tyrese.
Interesting how much better Tyrese was from the left side the court vs. the right on 3s. 48% vs. 31%.
That's a really interesting read for a basketball nerd. Highlights a couple interesting things.
His size, length, handle, vision and passing ability make him really strong in the PnR but I have always thought his almost reluctance to attack/score out of the PnR hampers him quite a bit. He's never going to be a score first guy I don't think, but if you compare him to say Monte I see Monte scoring just enough out of the PnR that defenses can't adjust their coverages, while with TH I feel like they can and we've seen that at times this year.
His shot/form used to be a concern in my eyes, but I've changed my opinion. First impression is that it's a really slow shot and he'll have trouble getting it off, but it's quicker than it appears. He doesn't have any trouble getting it off when a defender goes under a ball screen which makes it quick enough imo. I agree with the report that it's not a shot he's going to take off the dribble, but that's ok as long as he can shoot enough to keep a defender from going under the screen.
On the defensive side I take some of the comments with a little bit of a grain of salt. The main negatives on defense were in ball screens and closeouts. Our team closeouts and ball screen defense are a mess. He's got the physical tools and instincts to be good in both of those situations and with the right coaching should be strong in both cases. On the defensive end how much strength/mass he can add will be a key to his ceiling imo. If he can get enough mass to guard 1-3 he's got a huge value in the league. I think it's unlikely he can add enough to guard many 4s, but if he can then he is really something.
he can ask Wiggington
The NBA has been drafting on “potential” for like two decades. I’d say they draft more on raw talent and measurables now. They are looking for non-prototypical body types playing at non-prototypical positions.
With the way the NBA is today skill can really shine through and teams don’t have to waste roster spots on an enforcer and a lumbering center to guard “Shaq” or other giants in the middle.
This is why Conditt was actually on some draft boards a few weeks ago and Garza wasn't. It's all on potential and being a certain size that the NBA looks for. They like Conditt's skill set at the center position more than they do Garza.... it's just the way it is.
If it takes a guy 10 seconds to run down the court he probably doesn’t fit in a 24 second shot clock league.
He could use Monte as an example and comeback and become a legend at his alma mater. Of course, the guaranteed money for being a lottery pick is huge 5.3-8.1 million per year would be tough to pass up. That kind of money sets you up for life if used wisely.