Golf physics question
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It’s not “open to the target”. Your body is “squared” to the right of the target (for a right hander) and the club face is square with your shoulders, or neutral.
To promote the necessary swing path, close your stance.
I may not understand his question but I know a damn good solution! Beer...always beer.
I'm sure Butch Harmon is wrong too
How to make the ball curve
Don't make hitting a draw or a fade complicated. Butch Harmon shows you how.
Low draw; Stance slightly open due to the ball being further back for lower ball flight and delayed hip turn and/or closed face creates the draw.
In Jack's day they thought the club path determined the starting line of the ball though, they know now that it's almost entirely determined by club face angle. Thanks to launch monitors, high speed cameras, and all that.I'm sure Butch Harmon is wrong too
How to make the ball curve
Don't make hitting a draw or a fade complicated. Butch Harmon shows you how.www.golfdigest.com
If you wanted to hit a fade that landed on target straight in front of you, and you set your club face on that target line and your body to the left you'd hit a push fade that would land to the right of your target.
If your swing path is say 4° to the right of the actual target line and your club is closed 2° in relation to the actual swing path (not the target line) of the club, you should in theory hit a draw. I believe this and what you say above are very similar.
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I think it takes some dialing in with your individual swing to figure out how you need to set up, and how open or closed the club face should be. When I first started trying Jack's method to draw it, I had a natural fade (most of the time, to an unhelpful degree).
My immediate result of trying to set up this way was a shot that came off dead straight, maybe 10 degrees right of where I wanted it to go. Through practice, I've got it mostly going straight with a slight draw, though if I overcook it or set up wrong, it turns into a snap hook.
Anyway, I guess Jack's method isn't the most technically sound, but it's definitely the simplest and least fiddly way to draw or fade the ball for an average golfer (IMO).
Jack’s method will no doubt draw the ball. It just won’t start right of the target and come back to the target.
feel vs real, you were able to adjust the club face to get the desired result. Jacks method works to shape the ball, just not exactly how he says it does.
I play the draw by moving my left hand over the top of the grip a little bit (right-handed player). I hit the fade Jon Rahm/DJ style. My normal ball flight is pretty straight.
Eh, it matters as far as if someone were to only try what Jack says and not figure out their own club face they'd never hit the target. I guarantee you that when Jack actually hit the ball to hit a fade at a target the club face wasn't pointed at the target at impact while swinging left, it would have to be facing somewhere between the target line and the swing path line. Or the other option is he wasn't actually swinging that far left.
Alignment and excecution take practice.
Getting the ball to move left is all about RIGHT. Aim RIGHT of target. Swing further RIGHT of target. Be a ltttle more assertive with your RIGHT hand at impact. If this isn’t moving the ball left, move your RIGHT foot away from the target line a bit.
