Expectations for 2020-2021 season

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  1. CloneGuy8

    CloneGuy8 Well-Known Member

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    I think most of us can agree that this season was a massive disappointment. Barring a miracle run in Kansas City, there likely will be no post-season play for us.

    Reasons for optimism:
    Solomon Young has taken a step forward. Hopefully he can continue to improve his game in the offseason and go out with a good senior season.

    Bolton has shown he can be a good guard. He needs to work on turning it over less, and become a more efficient scorer.

    With some experience now, hopefully Grill and Jackson can make some big improvements and become threats from the outside. Conditt has the physical tools to be one of the better big men in the Big 12; hopefully he can play to his potential.

    Adding Javan Johnson should help. Has good size at 6'6; did shoot 43% from 3 his freshman year, but it dropped to 35% his sophomore year. Hines recently said on a podcast that he looked good on the offense during a coupe of practices he watched. Hopefully he can get his 3 point shot to over 40% again next year and use his length to help defensively.

    Bringing in 4 freshman that have good upside, and good size (three at 6'5, one at 7'0).

    Reasons for pessimism:
    Tyrese will most likely be playing in the NBA a year from now; not easy to replace a talent like that.

    A lot of guys are going to have to make major improvements, and we will need our freshman to make big impacts right away if we want to get back to the NCAA tournament.

    Who will play PG? Jaden Walker is a PG, but he'll be a true freshman and an unknown at this point. Not sure I feel great about Bolton or Jackson running the point.



    My expectation is always to make the tournament, and I'm not changing that expectation. A lot of things are going to have to go right for this to happen; lets hope they can do it.
     
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  2. madguy30

    madguy30 Well-Known Member

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    Instead of hoping I'm going to expect roles to be defined earlier in the season. I think it's to a point where that aspect needs to improve for the program to be sustainable.
     
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  3. CloneFan4

    CloneFan4 Well-Known Member

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    This is comforting to hear. My concern is that people will eventually bend their expectations in an attempt to give Prohm the benefit of the doubt, to the point where this fan base is no longer expecting an NCAA Tournament birth each year.

    That should always be the goal and expectation of this program.
     
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  4. DrClone

    DrClone Active Member

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    Hated to lose Haliburton as he was a fun player to watch but I think this team improves more the rest of the year without him. The other guys have to step up and not expect Tyrese to do it all. Thanks Tyrese you are a great Cyclone!
     
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  5. cmjh10

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    At this point, I will be surprised if we even have a basketball program.
     
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  6. farminclone

    farminclone Well-Known Member

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    My expectation is to make the tournament.

    My prediction is we won’t, with a conference record of about 6-12.
     
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  7. IASTATE07

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    Expectation is we need to be back in the tournament. I'll wait to see what our roster looks like before I predict it.
     
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  8. simply1

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  9. mb7299

    mb7299 Well-Known Member

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    Expectations will change if we can get a juco/grad transfer pg that is atleast an upper 30's 3 pt shooter. I think Walker will be a really good player for us but we really need a proven guy while he gets his feet wet. If all the recruits do come, there will be pretty big improvements through the year as they are a really talented group. Guessing 5-6 in conference standings. We will have shot at the tournament with a proven guard in that scenario. No proven guard that makes this team better and Im guessing 9th in conference and real talk about CSP not being here which would kill recruiting if he is still here. Very interesting how much could change in the next year.
     
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  10. Jayshellberg

    Jayshellberg Active Member

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    I expect ISU to be better next year, even if Haliburton goes to the NBA, which I expect. Young and Bolton are solid Big 12 players and hopefully a couple others will improve enough where the same can be said about them. Plus, Johnson and the incoming freshman should provide a boost. Eight to nine conference wins is definitely within reach in my opinion.
     
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  11. Cyclonepride

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    I'm excited. I think that we will look much more like the Cyclone teams we're used to, with more versatility due to the bigger guards/wings (particularly on defense). I also love what Jackson & Grill bring on the defensive end, and I think they'll get nothing but better.
     
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  12. Thompsonclone

    Thompsonclone Well-Known Member

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    Add 1-2 impact transfers who can shoot and we will maybe have a chance to return to the tournament. Adding length to the perimeter will be big. If we go into next year relying on a backcourt of Bolton, Jackson and Grill, it won’t be a great season.
     
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  13. NWICY

    NWICY Well-Known Member

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    Same as my want for every yr make the dance. Seeding etc... don't care just make the dance.
     
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  14. clones8232

    clones8232 Active Member

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    My expectation is that this site will never change
     
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  15. bostrem00

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    They could not be lower. They will be this years Oklahoma State. Returning a sizable core from the year before with next to no marked improvement.
     
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  16. Clonefan32

    Clonefan32 Well-Known Member

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    I'm figuring on quite a bit of turnover. Haliburton gone. Wouldn't be surprised to see a few other guys look at other options. What he's going to do with those additional scholarships will be huge.
     
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  17. Crookedhatkid

    Crookedhatkid Active Member

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    I am actually encouraged by what Jackson has shown the conference season. Hasn’t quite found where he fits in the offense yet, but competes defensively and has started to hit a fair share of open 3s.
     
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  18. Clonefan32

    Clonefan32 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. If there is one positive from this season it would be his development.
     
  19. awd4cy

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    Prohm needs to absolutely hit a couple home runs in the transfer department for us to go anywhere.
     
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  20. cycjob

    cycjob Active Member

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    We need another Deandre Kane who can run the team, provide leadership and toughness and just be a little nasty.
     
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