[Eli Sanders Added] 2021 Class Breakdown

[CloneGuy8]

Langston replacement? Had 4 picks his last season he played

Jaquan Amos - Football - Villanova University

Jaquan Amos (6) DB - Villanova: Named a CAA Football Preseason Honorable Mention selection ... Has excellent cover skills ... Possesses the ability to be a playmaker

villanova.com

According to his twitter, he also holds offers from West Virginia, Kansas State, Virginia, and Mississippi State

 

[PantherCyclone]

Any thoughts on a couple of uncommitted guys from 2021 that still are showing as "warm" for ISU?

Kyree Young - RB Massillon, OH (maybe less likely with Eli Sanders now on board)

Shafeek Smith - CB Philadelphia, PA (same school, Imhotep Institute, as Isheem Young)

Shafeek committed to Towson last week.

 

[Aclone]

Wouldn't Langston have fit at the FS spot? That's basically just Miller and King now. I think Miller finished the year pretty good. It seems like King got beat a lot.

No way are they moving their best cover corner lol
Everyone thinks Tampa will be a stud but as of now we have no idea if he can play corner.

I'm not sounding the alarm here. Just saying that yah it would have been nice to have a juco step in and play day 1 if possible.

I’m kind of expecting them to move Eisworth to FS. IIRC, that’s the play calling spot for the secondary, and he’s the guy with the experience for it.

Langston (and Beau Freyler both, when they committed) said he was being recruited for the Star spot. Which is part of the reason why I’d expect Isheem to be moved to SS when Eisworth goes to FS.

 

[RustShack]

Amos would be a good addition.

 

[bozclone]

Looks like Isheem Young might know Amos

 

[CyberJJJ]

I’m kind of expecting them to move Eisworth to FS. IIRC, that’s the play calling spot for the secondary, and he’s the guy with the experience for it.

Langston (and Beau Freyler both, when they committed) said he was being recruited for the Star spot. Which is part of the reason why I’d expect Isheem to be moved to SS when Eisworth goes to FS.

Not to be ignorant (I just showed I am!) but what is the Star position?

 

[CyberJJJ]

Did I read correctly with the Ben Langston de-commit, we now have ZERO Juco's in the 2021 class? When was the last time that happened? I realize in some cases the need for Juco's is less when more transfers, especially grad transfers with immediate eligibility (is that actually all transfers now?) are available. Just thought that statistic was a real indication of the progress of the program!

 

[VeloClone]

Not to be ignorant (I just showed I am!) but what is the Star position?

It is the fifth d-back that plays more of a hybrid safety/linebacker role.

 

[CyberJJJ]

It is the fifth d-back that plays more of a hybrid safety/linebacker role.

So how is that different than the traditional "nickelback"? I guess that was generally another CB or S replacing a linebacker. Is the Star more of a DB/LB hybrid, or is this just a new term to confuse us old guys?

 

[VeloClone]

So how is that different than the traditional "nickelback"? I guess that was generally another CB or S replacing a linebacker. Is the Star more of a DB/LB hybrid, or is this just a new term to confuse us old guys?

A nickleback generally comes in when the offense is playing 4 or 5 wide for coverage purposes. A Star generally plays pretty much full time often even in obvious rushing downs so he will take on more of a LB role on many downs. Generally to be an effective Star you have to have a strong mix of S and LB skills.

 

[CyberJJJ]

A nickleback generally comes in when the offense is playing 4 or 5 wide for coverage purposes. A Star generally plays pretty much full time often even in obvious rushing downs so he will take on more of a LB role on many downs. Generally to be an effective Star you have to have a strong mix of S and LB skills.

I appreciate the patient education! I also think the Johnny Orr quote may be my all-time favorite!

 

[tman24]

So how is that different than the traditional "nickelback"? I guess that was generally another CB or S replacing a linebacker. Is the Star more of a DB/LB hybrid, or is this just a new term to confuse us old guys?

Nickelback are usually 3rd corner. Star are usually strong safety/linebacker hybrid.

 

[Aclone]

Nickelback are usually 3rd corner. Star are usually strong safety/linebacker hybrid.

I’ve heard Coach Campbell refer to the spot as the “middle safety”.

 

[Die4Cy]

Did I read correctly with the Ben Langston de-commit, we now have ZERO Juco's in the 2021 class? When was the last time that happened? I realize in some cases the need for Juco's is less when more transfers, especially grad transfers with immediate eligibility (is that actually all transfers now?) are available. Just thought that statistic was a real indication of the progress of the program!

It used to be that a juco player was the only way to fill a hole in your team on short notice. The softening of transfer and grad student eligibility rules has impacted jucos a bunch.

 

[cytor]

Is the Nickelback position the inspiration for the name of that awful band from Canada?

 

[CyberJJJ]

Is the Nickelback position the inspiration for the name of that awful band from Canada?

Oh, I thought they changed their name to STAR?

 

[Aclone]

Is the Nickelback position the inspiration for the name of that awful band from Canada?

No. It’s because if you put a nickel in the jukebox, you’ll soon wish you had your nickel...back.

 

[BCClone]

A nickleback generally comes in when the offense is playing 4 or 5 wide for coverage purposes. A Star generally plays pretty much full time often even in obvious rushing downs so he will take on more of a LB role on many downs. Generally to be an effective Star you have to have a strong mix of S and LB skills.

I would add on to Velos post:

Yeah, the Star is a combination of a Strong Safety and weak side linebacker. A nickelback is coming in on pass coverage and you pull a linebacker generally. In the old days of the 5 man fronts they would get Monster name. Sometimes Rambler. They a tweener. Think of playing a strong safety as a linebacker, they will take pass coverage when needed, not as first response.

 

[Cyforce]

I would add on to Velos post:

Yeah, the Star is a combination of a Strong Safety and weak side linebacker. A nickelback is coming in on pass coverage and you pull a linebacker generally. In the old days of the 5 man fronts they would get Monster name. Sometimes Rambler. They a tweener. Think of playing a strong safety as a linebacker, they will take pass coverage when needed, not as first response.

Since our base has 5 DBs wouldn't our nickel technically be a dime?

 

[BCClone]

Since our base has 5 DBs wouldn't our nickel technically be a dime?

Depends what you consider the Star position. Our nickel is still a nickel since we would have 5 DBs since the star is its own position.