Different Guy at QB?

[ruxCYtable]

Simple passes? You mean 3rd an 9s to receivers who aren't open when you're under pressure?

I'm guessing that Arnaud also threw the coin toss last weekend, because with the way OU drove the field on their first possession, it was obvious the defense was worn out from some offensive failure.

Our offense has been bad the last 2 weeks, but let's quit acting like our defense is bad just because their tired. Our defense sucked *** right out the gate saturday. The only way we would have won is if our offense scored every single time they had the ball, and that's an unrealistic expectation.

And why is it 3rd and 9? Probably because of 1-2 missed easy throws on 1st and/or 2nd down.

And if you're going to respond to my post at least read it first. Did I say the defense is bad because they were tired? No. I said the fact that our offense can't sustain a drive makes our ALREADY BAD defense EVEN WORSE.

 

[Al_4_State]

And why is it 3rd and 9? Probably because of 1-2 missed easy throws on 1st and/or 2nd down.

And if you're going to respond to my post at least read it first. Did I say the defense is bad because they were tired? No. I said the fact that our offense can't sustain a drive makes our ALREADY BAD defense EVEN WORSE.

No, they're 3rd and 8 (my bad) because of our 1.8 yard per carry average, which given our talent at RB is on the O-line.

I would agree that the offense hasn't helped the defense much, but our offense would have to score 50 points a game to have been in the last couple. That's unrealistic.

 

[QuickQuestion]

Only if we had a run game. Stanzi throws mostly off of play action, to guys who are a lot more open than anyone we have. Watch an Iowa game. Every time they go play action, the TE is WIDE open. Their WRs get great separation.

Not to discredit Stanzi, because he's had a fine year, but he'd look like **** at ISU.

Bringing up Stanzi over AA to Al is a dangerous subject.

 

[CyCloned]

the thing with having wynn, jones or stanzi is that they are a threat to throw. AA right now doesnt give opposing teams any reason to fear the pass because he is just plain BAD in our system. we rely so heavily on the zone read because we have zero confidence in having AA make plays throwing, and AA has pretty much lost all confidence in himself it seems like when I watch the games. Its time for a change. We're gonna ride AA out the rest of this year im sure, but i cant wait for a new face back there.

This is exactly what I have been saying. AA is not horrible until he tries to throw the ball down the field, then he is really bad. Since there is no threat that ISU is going to beat anyone deep, everyone is compressing the LOS and destroying everything else ISU is trying to run.

I do agree with the original poster though, the record would not be much different. ISU would have still lost to Iowa, OU and Utah, might have beat KSU, btu at least there would not have been the embarrassment of getting completely blown out in three games, with a 4th one coming this weekend.

 

[Knownothing]

I loved Seneca and think he is better than AA but c'mon. He never had more than 7 wins and got blown out as much as AA

He beat the teams he should have beat i.e. Kansas State. Not KSU back then because they were really good. That is why I said we would have beat K=State but still got creamed by the other 3 teams.

 

[Wesley]

With four yard passes, we need to complete 70% to keep drives alive. That dictates that our qb be extremely accurate. Take it from there.

 

[Al_4_State]

Bringing up Stanzi over AA to Al is a dangerous subject.

Stanzi's having a very good year and is a better pro prospect. But it's crazy to think he'd be any of those things playing on our team right now. Absolutely crazy.

His support staff blows away anything that Arnaud has ever had. I hate to say it, but if Arnaud had went to Iowa, he'd have a hell of a lot better shot at the NFL than he's had here.

What would Stanzi look like behind our line throwing to our receivers, with no defense? I'd bet his record wouldn't exactly be 18-4, and no one would consider him a pro prospect.

I'm not trying to discredit Stanzi, but you can't throw out those external factors. A lot of D1 QBs would succeed at Iowa and struggle at ISU right now.

 

[chuckd4735]

He beat the teams he should have beat i.e. Kansas State. Not KSU back then because they were really good. That is why I said we would have beat K=State but still got creamed by the other 3 teams.

You mean like UConn?

 

[atlantacyclone]

I think that if you put AA as QB at OK you would find that he is a statistical powerhouse. I like our QB, sure he makes mistakes... I would argue that he has the ability to take nothing and turn it into something. Those other QBs that have time to throw are PANZIES!

 

[Bigguns]

We would be atleast 4-2 with Wynn or Jones as our QB or possibly better. This offense needs a QB with very good accuracy.

If you have an accurate passer..the quick throws are there..so less chance for a pass rush. The bigger passing threat at QB opens up the running game. And if your QB can actually run a little the offense becomes that much more dangerous.

With a good offense, the defense is on the field less. Being on the field less makes them more rested and ready to go. And if by some chance the offense is actually scoring points instead of going three-and-out each time they might be a little more motivated to go out and stop the other team!

I know there are several positions that aren't playing well right now but having a different QB especially one of those two (Wynn or Jones) would make a HUGE difference!

Please tell me what 2 games we would have won. Iowa? They didn't even open up their playbook and they ran through our D like crap thru a goose. OU running 96 plays against our D had more to do with our D being out matched than our O being ineffective.(It was a team problem but some of our better D's would have made it more respectable). Utah? Give me a break! AA completes the bubbles and short passes at a high percentage they end up being short gains, Wynn and Jones complete short passes and they turn into huge plays. We need play makers like Shaky Smithson, Ryan Broyles or a guy like Denario Alexander or Jeremy Macline. I say until we have a guy like that our O will struggle no matter who the QB is. You get a guy like that every thing opens up plus KO and PR become a huge weapon.

 

[Bigguns]

Beat the Dead Horse! Harder! Harder!

Hey if you are from PETA I suggest you stay off this board. If you enjoy the horse beating you are in the right place.

 

[Al_4_State]

I think that if you put AA as QB at OK you would find that he is a statistical powerhouse. I like our QB, sure he makes mistakes... I would argue that he has the ability to take nothing and turn it into something. Those other QBs that have time to throw are PANZIES!

He did that a couple of times against OU. Not like it got us any points, but it kept a few drives alive and bought the defense some rest.

 

[tazclone]

We would be atleast 4-2 with Wynn or Jones as our QB or possibly better. This offense needs a QB with very good accuracy.

If you have an accurate passer..the quick throws are there..so less chance for a pass rush. The bigger passing threat at QB opens up the running game. And if your QB can actually run a little the offense becomes that much more dangerous.

With a good offense, the defense is on the field less. Being on the field less makes them more rested and ready to go. And if by some chance the offense is actually scoring points instead of going three-and-out each time they might be a little more motivated to go out and stop the other team!

I know there are several positions that aren't playing well right now but having a different QB especially one of those two (Wynn or Jones) would make a HUGE difference!

The quick throws aren't there when defenses can play press coverage and knock receivers off their routes. They can do this because they don't think our recievrs can beat them deep AND even if they do Arnaud may or may not hit them.

 

[tazclone]

You point out the defensive players we had when Seneca was here but you fail to point out the horrible offensive players we had. Jack Whitiver was his #2 receiver at times. That pretty much says it all. Not to mention that offensive line Seneca had makes our current group look like the 2002 Iowa Hawkeyes offensive line.

There's a reason he's still in the NFL. He's a big time player. It's also no accident the year after Seneca leaves we return 40 of our top 48 and go 2-10.

Interesting enough he had the same receivers in year one as he did in year two. Yet his completion% went down. Hmmm.
Also, I said Seneca was special. Won't argue that. Just stating that even with a great QB, the results on the field aren't always great. You are just making my point for me. OL, WR play and RB play can affect a QB and their ability. As well as strength of schedule.

 

[Lafester5]

I think that if you put AA as QB at OK you would find that he is a statistical powerhouse. I like our QB, sure he makes mistakes... I would argue that he has the ability to take nothing and turn it into something. Those other QBs that have time to throw are PANZIES!

I hope this was a joke. AA wouldnt even see the field at OU let alone any other BCS school.

 

[thatguy]

I think that if you put AA as QB at OK you would find that he is a statistical powerhouse. I like our QB, sure he makes mistakes... I would argue that he has the ability to take nothing and turn it into something. Those other QBs that have time to throw are PANZIES!

ya no

 

[TuckerBlayze]

The quick throws aren't there when defenses can play press coverage and knock receivers off their routes. They can do this because they don't think our recievrs can beat them deep AND even if they do Arnaud may or may not hit them.

The quick slants are always there. You just have to have the QB that can put the ball on the money each time. When they start jumping the slant...then the deep ball comes!
You can't tell me that none of our receivers can get off the line. The problem comes from a so-so offensive line and a QB with happy feet. Arnaud makes one read and if its not open he panics!

 

[woodie]

ARNAUD FOR HEISMAN!!!!!!!

 

[TuckerBlayze]

Please tell me what 2 games we would have won.
Since we already have 3 wins...the fourth win would have been Kansas State. If the offense would have actually shown up against Iowa and Utah, the games would have been different. Not saying we would have won but the games would have been closer.

AA completes the bubbles and short passes at a high percentage they end up being short gains
No he doesn't! Very rarely does he hit the receiver in stride on the WR screens and he can't throw the quick slant pattern (which is a VERY big part of this offense) He throws the 5 yard out alright but throwing that when you need 7-8 yards doesn't work very well!

We need play makers
Who doesn't? We honestly don't know what we have because we are very limited on what we do as an offense because of our poor line and QB play.

You get a guy like that every thing opens up plus KO and PR become a huge weapon.
Keep an eye on Jarvis West next year in the return game!

 

[d30fan]

It seems to me that AA probably does very well in practice, with little pressure, but has developed a major "head" problem in game situations. If he hits his first 2 or 3 throws, he seems to go on to have a pretty good game, but if he misses on the first one, he panics and completely loses confidence. Don't know if there is a cure for this. We have been watching the same AA for 3 years now, and if anything he has regressed.