yes..let us ignore the top level O-Line and D-lines Iowa is sporting in support.
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Different Guy at QB?
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yes..let us ignore the top level O-Line and D-lines Iowa is sporting in support.
next.
You forgot to say you were joking, and that Iowa has a better O and D-line to go with their better WR's and DB's. QB and RB may be the only position we are better than Iowa at. If AA and A-Rob had Iowa's O-line they would be 1 of the highest scoring O's in the nation.
AA was 66% completion prior to his injury at KSU. He had 6 incompletions. One was to Johnson on the sideline that was a 5 yard out that would have gone for 5 yards. Poorly thrown but, IMO, he threw it away. One was the blown screen that KO screwed up and he threw the ball into the ground. Another one went through Darks hands. Two to Williams were knocked down, even though they were well thrown, because there was no separation. One was a drop by ARob and the last was a poorly thrwon ball to Franklin. 6 incompletes at worst two bad passes. 90% of his passes were on the money. AA also had 60 yards rushing for a 5.45 YPC(if you remove the sacks).
After he got hurt, AA completed two 4th and 1s that our RBs could not convert on 3rd down. AA was sacked 2x's when KSU rushed three and dropped 8.
My point... I doubt the first three quarters are any different if you put any of those QB's in our offense. Our OL, RB, and WR play was that bad. None of those three QBs would have converted the 4th and 1s. So none of those QBs would have had a chance to hit an open ARob.
People look at one play in the KSU game and draw the conclusion that AA sucked the whole game. He actually played well until he got hurt. Our run game sucked. 4.3 YPC against KSU. KSU's rush defense is worse than ours. It ranks worse than ours and they haven't played the running teams we have.
????? Arnaud throws well on the run. His best game of the year, they rolled him out away from pressure and he completed 70% of his passes with no INTs. Why we don't roll him out a lot more, I don't understand
Stanzi is not accurate when pressured. See Arizona game for evidence of that. See his career complet %. Stanzi is very good rolling right (with no pressure) and standing in the pocket with no pressure.
Stanzi is not good with pressure and makes very poor decisions. When pressured, he throws INTs and pick sixes. Put him behind ISU's OL and it would be ugly.
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Interesting fact but Seneca never won more than 7 games and never won a bowl game. He had more INTs than TDs and had a 55%completion rate his last year (finished at 58%). He was much better when he had Haywood in the backfield (62%).
BTW- The defense that played with Seneca had guys named Hobbs, Carstens, Leaders, Word, Smith and Billups. That defense held TT to 17 points and Nebraska to 14.
Seneca was special but in 2002, he folded in big games. Everyone remembers the almost TD against FSU but forgets we started out down 24-0 and FSU let up. Then there were the catastrophes of OU(49-3), Kansas St (58-7), Colorado(41-27) and UConn. Not to mention Boise.
I loved Seneca and think he is better than AA but c'mon. He never had more than 7 wins and got blown out as much as AA
AA is a great guy and hard worker, but Stanzi will be drafted in the first four rounds and AA won't. That is not to take anything away from Austen, but to say they are comparable just isn't a fact. Stanzi is just better.
You point out the defensive players we had when Seneca was here but you fail to point out the horrible offensive players we had. Jack Whitiver was his #2 receiver at times. That pretty much says it all. Not to mention that offensive line Seneca had makes our current group look like the 2002 Iowa Hawkeyes offensive line.
There's a reason he's still in the NFL. He's a big time player. It's also no accident the year after Seneca leaves we return 40 of our top 48 and go 2-10.
It's a double edged sword. While it seems to be pretty popular recently to point at AA as why we haven't done more this year, he also is a big reason we have the wins we do.
I look at it this way. AA had 75% completions against Northern Illinois, and a heck of a game against TT. With a different guy we could just as easily be 1-6. If Seneca Wallace were running the offense we would likely be 1 game better than we are now (K state). Utah, Iowa, and OU may have been closer games, but I don't see anyone moving those into the win column. AA helps more than he hurts.
I look at it this way. AA had 75% completions against Northern Illinois, and a heck of a game against TT. With a different guy we could just as easily be 1-6. If Seneca Wallace were running the offense we would likely be 1 game better than we are now (K state). Utah, Iowa, and OU may have been closer games, but I don't see anyone moving those into the win column. AA helps more than he hurts.
His running ability made first downs against the weaker teams and then led to wins. Against real dlines, he cannot make the same plays. All he can do is fling the ball to the outside while running for his life.
We would be atleast 4-2 with Wynn or Jones as our QB or possibly better. This offense needs a QB with very good accuracy.
If you have an accurate passer..the quick throws are there..so less chance for a pass rush. The bigger passing threat at QB opens up the running game. And if your QB can actually run a little the offense becomes that much more dangerous.
With a good offense, the defense is on the field less. Being on the field less makes them more rested and ready to go. And if by some chance the offense is actually scoring points instead of going three-and-out each time they might be a little more motivated to go out and stop the other team!
I know there are several positions that aren't playing well right now but having a different QB especially one of those two (Wynn or Jones) would make a HUGE difference!
If you have an accurate passer..the quick throws are there..so less chance for a pass rush. The bigger passing threat at QB opens up the running game. And if your QB can actually run a little the offense becomes that much more dangerous.
With a good offense, the defense is on the field less. Being on the field less makes them more rested and ready to go. And if by some chance the offense is actually scoring points instead of going three-and-out each time they might be a little more motivated to go out and stop the other team!
I know there are several positions that aren't playing well right now but having a different QB especially one of those two (Wynn or Jones) would make a HUGE difference!
KSU's quarterback was pretty bad, we could have lost to Texas Tech with him as QB.
I don't understand people who keep saying this. Our defense is bad, yes, but if our offense could sustain drives we could shield that poor defense and keep them off the field. Arnaud cannot complete the simplest of passes resulting in a pluthera of 3-and-outs the likes of which I've never seen. Contrary to the beliefs of an astounding number of people on this board, they ARE related. We have a poor, depleted defense that is spending entirely too much time on the field, making them even worse than they really are. And the reason for that is the offense and, more specifically, the man behind center.
Only if we had a run game. Stanzi throws mostly off of play action, to guys who are a lot more open than anyone we have. Watch an Iowa game. Every time they go play action, the TE is WIDE open. Their WRs get great separation.
Not to discredit Stanzi, because he's had a fine year, but he'd look like **** at ISU.
You understand how ridiculous this is, right? What do you think their respective win-loss record would be if they switched teams?
If you think Stanzi (or ANYONE) would be 18-4 playing for ISU, I hope that your family has the proper authorities contacted, and you're on your way to a padded cell.
Simple passes? You mean 3rd an 9s to receivers who aren't open when you're under pressure?
I'm guessing that Arnaud also threw the coin toss last weekend, because with the way OU drove the field on their first possession, it was obvious the defense was worn out from some offensive failure.
Our offense has been bad the last 2 weeks, but let's quit acting like our defense is bad just because their tired. Our defense sucked *** right out the gate saturday. The only way we would have won is if our offense scored every single time they had the ball, and that's an unrealistic expectation.
