Did JP self report WM's Improprieties?
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Let me guess. Mac is the only one at his practice, because everyone else already quit?
Definition of Revisionist History: (please see above)
There was no secret to Wayne Morgan running a loose ship. Stinson and Blalock ran that team and the coach was quickly losing control. You didn't see people getting into trouble on Morgan's team because he didn't discipline. JP saw this, and knew he had to change it.
It was the later. Morgan did nothing wrong and Jamie was eager to pull the trigger way too early so he could start building his empire.
Jamie is responsible for this mess; the buck stops with him and he's the one responsible for this lousy contract mess we have to endure.
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JP's seat isn't even close to hot. His statement about GMac, began by referring to the great shape the athletic dept is in. Some have called into question why he would bring that up when the topic is MBB. It's because Jamie is a smart guy. He's making sure everyone knows about his successes, and if those successes happen to form part of the argument for keeping GMac, so much the better, but that statement was all about JP.
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Ahh yes....those sinister "rumors" about Wayne Morgan. Can't get a enough of them. Heard one the other day that Wayne wanted the ISU head coaching job so bad...he photo-shopped LE's face and body in every picture. There are many that place him on the grassy knoll. Remember the space shuttle tragedy in 1986, yup..you guessed it. The Russians are still looking into rumors about Chernobyl, and I am sure there are some about what really happened on 9/11, and why we are STILL fighting in the middle east. He's one bad dude that's for sure, and ISU mens basketball is better off without him.:biglaugh:
Seriously...KG said it right....he is getting a bad rap. And is there a double standard..probably. Won't be the first, or last time this happens. Does it make it right...absolutely not. But I have a distinct feeling from what I have read and seen today, that if next year at this time we aren't in any better shape...we won't have to worry anymore about double standards.
Talk about revisionist history; what give you the privilege of knowing who runs the program?
If Morgan had any of these deficiencies, then Jamie should have followed proper procedures and had a performance review; then outlined the path to progress. You don't fire somebody unless it's for cause - and Stinson running his mouth is not cause.
JP created this mess and made it worse with a lousy contract he negotiated with McD.
Everbody yaps about LE not getting a fair shake with a chance to correct his problems, but they don't seem to apply that to Morgan who got a bigger shaft from Jamie..
Jamie wanted his coaches in his program to show the world what he built; and as far as MBB goes, the foundation is in bad need of repair.
GMac just cost KSU a #1 seed in the show. Is that what you mean by being a great coach to play against?
Then the proper way to handle that was to outline the issues and give coach a timetable to correct the problems; if he doesn't then it's grounds for dismissal.
Morgan was shafted out of an opportunity to correct any issues, if there were any to begin with.
I wish it was the organization of practices that got teams into the NCAA tournament!!! Wouldn't that be awesome, and if nice guys finished first! Seriously, who goes to the practices besides the rich rich boosters? And wasn't their real complaint that WM didn't kiss their back sides enough and make then laugh just like Johnny and Larry.....um wake up people our big boosters were holding the gun to JP's head saying you better fix this and get us a good ol boy quick because we really don't like how it is when we visit the practice facility...so lame!
If you think JPs seat is hot or would be if he made another MBB hire that didn't pan out. Well...I personally think you are nuts, but you will have your backers I'm sure. It's all about the bottom line $$$$. Also, Director's Cup is HUGE for the AD and we are excelling there.
Pres. GG should give him another raise if anything.
Do you know for a fact that he wasn't given a list of things that needed corrected and a timetable? I don't know. It's possible he wasn't, but I do know that some people had concerns well before he was fired.
Yes, it is about the $$$. But JP brought in money based on certain promises- promises that turned out to be false. An increasing segment of the $ machines are realizing day with every passing day.
Practice Facility?
Exactly, morgan had no practice facility...Morgan just brought in talent and handed them that do nothing mentality...I seem to remember some damn exciting zone defense and full court pressure that led to some exciting wins and a very fun brand of basketball to watch, weather the John Wooden age Cyclone fans with booster money think so or not (ugh sit on your hands in your parquet seats, I think the last game you cheered for was when we beat OSU at home and they were ranked 2nd seriously what's the average age of the boosters down low, almost dead?)
Gmac has had every advantage to succeed here and hasn't done jack squat!
Who was the real coach at UNI when Greg was winning up there, Jacobsen?
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I do know that Archibald told a friend that the coaches were under heavy scrutiny early in the season, and the coaches were a little bewildered about that considering they had just been to the 2nd round of the NCAA the year before. JP created insecurity and unfair pressure on the staff and created chaos within the program early in Morgan's 3rd year. Compare that with today's press conference and JP's undying support of GMac's program near the end of year 4. And again, compare Morgan's handling of George with GMac's handling of Taylor and Colvin, and please don't revise history. Fact is Morgan showed better discipline in those situations.
