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There have rumors and allegations of WM not doing things right. There were supposedly improprieties and infractions during his tenure. Did JP self-report these violations to the NCAA? Or was he involved in a "cover-up" whereby these were swept under the carpet?

Or,

Were there no violations and WM was fired for performance? In which case, a massive double standard is being set here, and WM has grounds for a lawsuit?
 
gogagig said:
There have rumors and allegations of WM not doing things right. There were supposedly improprieties and infractions during his tenure. Did JP self-report these violations to the NCAA? Or was he involved in a "cover-up" whereby these were swept under the carpet?

Or,

Were there no violations and WM was fired for performance? In which case, a massive double standard is being set here, and WM has grounds for a lawsuit?
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Morgan gets a bad rap...IMO, just was not a very good coach.
 
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Just to be clear. Are you suggesting there were no violations and that they were made up? If that is the case then yes WM would have grounds but I would think he probably would have acted on that.

If there were violations then IMO I think JP had every right to let him go. Right or wrong he had justification.

I do not know the real answer to your question.
 
gogagig said:
There have rumors and allegations of WM not doing things right. There were supposedly improprieties and infractions during his tenure. Did JP self-report these violations to the NCAA? Or was he involved in a "cover-up" whereby these were swept under the carpet?

Or,

Were there no violations and WM was fired for performance? In which case, a massive double standard is being set here, and WM has grounds for a lawsuit?
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I smell fish.
 
gogagig said:
There have rumors and allegations of WM not doing things right. There were supposedly improprieties and infractions during his tenure. Did JP self-report these violations to the NCAA? Or was he involved in a "cover-up" whereby these were swept under the carpet?

Or,

Were there no violations and WM was fired for performance? In which case, a massive double standard is being set here, and WM has grounds for a lawsuit?
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Last I saw, he was let go because of the state of the program. State of the program means many different things and isn't based solely on W-L.

There are other factors as well like the current economy na dht financial status of the athletic department
 
He was investigated for a scheduling infraction by the NCAA. Big deal, no. But given the state of the basketball program, it was easy to see the termination coming.
 
mcdemott's impropieties:
players leaving for other schools.
great coach for other big 12 coaches to play against.
monty's dirty dozen.

i am certain monty will be here sooner or later with the monty "dirty dozen gmac infractions"!!!!!!!
 
BooneCy said:
He was investigated for a scheduling infraction by the NCAA. Big deal, no. But given the state of the basketball program, it was easy to see the termination coming.
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Not a big deal except that he was burning up athletic department money for something that could have easily been done in house.

That wasn't the only reason, but it certainly was the icing on the cake so to speak.
 
woodie said:
mcdemott's impropieties:
players leaving for other schools.
great coach for other big 12 coaches to play against.
monty's dirty dozen.

i am certain monty will be here sooner or later with the monty "dirty dozen gmac infractions"!!!!!!!
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I think it's safe to say he won't be.
 
Cyclone06 said:
Based on results, how the hell would you describe McD?:confused:
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I would describe him a good coach with a solid resume who has failed miserably to continue that success at ISU.

Wayne was a great recruiter with no game day skills, but talent alone can win you a fair share of games that is a fact.
 
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After LE the program had a black eye and Wayne was not helping the situation. I know there were lots of rumor flying around that several players had quit going to classes.
 
Both WM and GM are nice guys. Both took over teams that were either 17-14 or 16-14 in the previous season. That seems to be where the similarities end. WM was successful; GM has not been successful. WM was fired; GM will be back next year.

Unless GM can pull off a miracle in the Big 12 tournament, he's going to go into next season with a huge target on his back. There will be hundreds, if not thousands, of ISU fans who are well aware of the apparent double standard that has been shown by JP.
 
Not suprised by the JP press conference backing GMac, but it does expose the huge double standard by JP in the Morgan and GMac situations- that can't be denied. With Morgan JP made a lot out of the scheduling flap, which the NCAA said was a non-issue, as well as some sort of top secret info about Morgan running a loose ship and being a bad disciplinarian, even though GMac has proven he's looser on discipline than Morgan. George was the only player to get in trouble under Morgan and he was booted immediately. Contrast that to the way GMac handled the Mike Taylor and Chris Colvin situations. JP looks very bad and there is just no way to justify canning a succesful coach like Morgan after 3 years then continuing to back an unsuccessful coach like GMac after year 4. Not to mention the suffering of us fans going from post season fun and routinely beating ranked teams to another bad year followed by sitting at home again (barring a miracle this week).
 
If you went to a WM practice and a Mac one they aren't even comparable. I've been to pickup games at the rec that are more organized than a WM practice.

With Wayne you could see he was letting things slide and it needed to stop before it became a big problem. I haven't heard if he got any warnings and ignored them.

With Mac a worst case scenario is he doesn't get enough W's next year.
 
CYKOFAN said:
Not suprised by the JP press conference backing GMac, but it does expose the huge double standard by JP in the Morgan and GMac situations- that can't be denied. With Morgan JP made a lot out of the scheduling flap, which the NCAA said was a non-issue, as well as some sort of top secret info about Morgan running a loose ship and being a bad disciplinarian, even though GMac has proven he's looser on discipline than Morgan. George was the only player to get in trouble under Morgan and he was booted immediately. Contrast that to the way GMac handled the Mike quiTaylor and Chris Colvin situations. JP looks very bad and there is just no way to justify canning a succesful coach like Morgan after 3 years then continuing to back an unsuccessful coach like GMac after year 4. Not to mention the suffering of us fans going from post season fun and routinely beating ranked teams to another bad year followed by sitting at home again (barring a miracle this week).
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I really believe that part of the reason that JP did not make a coaching change is for his own job security. JP's job is quite safe if he makes one bad coaching hire in basketball. But if he were to make two bad hires, JP's own seat would be red hot. So, why not delay the second hiring as much as possible, he probably reckons.
 
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