DB Nigel Tribune commits
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thats a great point...and perfectly a reasonable explanation.....maybe thats all it is.
I just dont think the people who (gasp!) dare ask, or question CPR are in any way out of line.
Like i said....a few on here take themselves way too seriously.
Good post.
Lol, to be fair, for every Jake Knott and AJ Klein, there are hundreds of players that fail.
True, but if you look at the guys, on defense especially, that have been major contributors over the past couple of years, the majority have been guys that have been ranked lower and had minimal, if any, other BCS offers. No one can argue that the strength of our team right now is our defense, built with guys exactly like the types of guys that we are getting commitments from.
Also, there have been several other players in past recruiting classes that have had no stars to begin with on their profile, and have been given 3 *'s later in the year. As someone stated previously in another thread, there are 10's of thousands of kids that are playing high school football and it would take an enormous amount of man power for Rivals to rate them all in the first few months after the previous NSD.
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We need a stud quarterback. The rest of this stuff is just something to talk about when there is nothing else going on. A great QB is the difference maker. As long as we have a few good offensive linemen, which we never have a problem finding, and a few good defensive players, the rest of the guys can be servicable and we will have a good team. But we need a stud quarterback. A quarterback makes the difference, whether we have a few guys that were not offered by anyone else or that aren't rated doesn't matter if we have a great QB. QB is what matters.
Just statistically when you get as many low ranked players as we do we're going to get a few that turn out to be studs, while the vast majority are decent to below average. The handful of 4 stars we get probably don't fail at any higher than the normal rate of failure, it's just we get so few that it very rarely seems like the are good.
According to Rivals, he runs a 4.5 40 yd. and has a 34 inch vertical. Acceptable athleticism IMO. And I remember Mike Clemons who was a DB back in the days of Earle Bruce who was as slow as a tortoise but was a 3 year starter. Clem was great at playing proper position and probably played faster in pads than without pads. Some guys are just players.
Nigel Tribune - Yahoo! Sports
Nigel Tribune - Yahoo! Sports
If that page is accurate, then I am more then happy with Tribune. And his name made him a 3 star for me
I think if his initial scouting report that was posted said he ran a 4.5 40 rather than the 4.73, you'd see a lot less posts complaining.
The 4.73 couldn't have been what the kid currently runs and I think many of us knew that and that's why we were mocking it. Seriously folks, a DB who runs a 4.73 would never be offered by a d-1 school.
The 4.73 couldn't have been what the kid currently runs and I think many of us knew that and that's why we were mocking it. Seriously folks, a DB who runs a 4.73 would never be offered by a d-1 school.
Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Paul Clark puts them down as a soft verbal if they haven't visited campus yet. Shoot nobody is set in stone until signing day so they all should be soft verbals. Especially with Snyder back in the saddle at KState.
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Both teams in the NC last year
There may be one of them a season.
An electronic timed 4.73 would make sense. That would put him in the 4.5 range hand-timed. A lot of times on recruiting sites are exaggerated, so it makes legitimate times seem high. For reference, 3 different safeties ran slower than 4.7 (1 @4.70, 2 @ 4.74) at last years NFL combine. Certaintly not the speed you would like to see, but there are only so many 4.3 guys out there, and 40 time has very little to do with football ability.
What was all-Big 12 CB LJ's electronically timed 40 time at the NFL combine?
Also, we have definitely had plenty of DBs at ISU who ran in the 4.7 range, especially safeties.... though usually their recruiting profile says 4.5 or some other time that is faster than they actually run. Sadly I think we have had a few who couldn't sniff 4.7.
Also, I think those times on recruiting sites need to be taken with a huge grain of salt, and if a time is posted that is actually accurate it will make a recruit look worse when compared to all the other inaccurate times. I remember Stevie Hicks Rivals profile had him at 4.5, he was really up around 5 seconds.
I think more kids get looked over in the recruiting hot beds where there is tons of talent than in the small rural markets like Iowa. Kind of like a medium fish in a pond full of big fish(Florida/TX) versus a medium fish in a pond of small fish(Iowa). That medium fish in the big pond plays tougher teams, and just might be bigger than that medium fish that looks big in the small pond. I don't follow football recruiting as close as I do BBall, but I see this a lot in BBall.
Frankly, I would be more concerned if we had 5 "under the radar" from Iowa.
Just to be clear, we're talking about the Leonard Johnson that wasn't drafted right?
He also ran a better time at his pro day.
Sometimes players just don't have good technique for the 40 which costs them some time. I guess I should clarify my previous post. If a player can't run faster than 4.73 at any time, he's not making it as a major college cornerback. That doesn't mean that just because a guy runs a 4.73 forty one time that he can't be successful.
Anyway, I never believed that time accurately reflected his speed. It couldn't have.
during the combine
