Curtis Jones Not Even Honorable Mention

[Malone]

Cujo just gonna need to rub the voters’ noses in it and come back next year and lead the league in scoring. Perfectly capable

 

[cyclones500]

If you get two players on the first team, but finish 5th in the league, your remaining players must really SUCK!

Makes me wonder - has that combo occurred previously in history of Big 12? I suppose it did but without doing intense research no example comes to mind.

 

[1TwistedCyclone]

Phillips 66 All-Big 12 Men’s Basketball Awards Announced

In Houston’s first season as a Big 12 member, Jamal Shead was named both Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year while Kelvin Sampson was selected Coach of the Year to highlight the 2023-24 Phillips 66 All-Big 12 men’s basketball awards, chosen by the head coaches. In the other...

big12sports.com

Every first teamer gets a paragraph in the article. Except Lipsey...

Yea that's a head scratcher. It's so blatant, it couldn't have been an intentional slight, right?

 

[Big_Sill]

All of it seems pretty fair to me.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

He played "starter minutes". The distinction. Is meaningless here.

Ya on a cyclones fan webpage it is.

 

[CRcyclone6]

KU getting 2 first team guys for this year is hilarious.

How many games did McCullar miss. Not quite half?

 

[rosshm16]

McCullar played in 13 of 18 conference games

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

On any page where meaningless distinctions aren't relied upon by voters who should know better, you mean.

Ya cause we never see bias at play in America.

 

[Cyclonepride]

If you get two players on the first team, but finish 5th in the league, your remaining players must really SUCK!

*6th ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

[NENick]

CJones is definitely deserving of HM.
So is RJones.

 

[rosshm16]

The guy on BYU who doesn't start was named HM, so "isn't a starter" is not a good reason for explaining this snub.

 

[Cyclonepride]

CJones is definitely deserving of HM.
So is RJones.

I was really hoping Robert would get that. An argument could be made for Robert for most improved too.

 

[Stormin]

Finishing second in the Big 12 with a lack of all league performers just draws attention to the absolutely outstanding coaching job by TJ. How in the hell does TJ win with the lack of talent?

 

[Cyclonepride]

Finishing second in the Big 12 with a lack of all league performers just draws attention to the absolutely outstanding coaching job by TJ. How in the hell does TJ win with the lack of talent?

Yeah, can't have it both ways. Either we have talent, or TJ should have easily won coach of the year.

FWIW, I think we have talent and even though it isn't as flashy as some, I'd say it's definitely more effective than most.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

My point, unlike yours apparently, can be separated from the immediate context here. If a player plays as many minutes or more minutes than many of the starters, then it is silly AF to penalize him or her for not being a starter in selecting those worthy of being honored. That's it.

I'm not even saying he should have made the list for ****'s sake. I'm saying I disagree with those suggesting that the fact he wasn't a starter should preclude him from the list or should be a significant factor.

But somehow you twist that into me saying that cyclone FANATICS are not biased. Of course we are--ALL fans are biased.

I'm not making that claim, I was simply offering an answer that is likely going to be used by those who voted. I already said he probably deserved it. So if you want to claim I'm 'twisting' your words I would say, take a look in the mirror.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Indeed. I was mocking you for thinking these awards are given based on objective terms. Thus the bias.

 

[CloneLawman]

Indeed. I was mocking you for thinking these awards are given based on objective terms. Thus the bias.

I never suggested that awards are given objectively, Master Simpleton. That doesn't preclude me from asserting what I believe objective factors might be. Now I'm gonna go back, delete all the other posts of mine from your misguided pissing match and proceed with my day. Good day to you.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I never suggested that awards are given objectively, Master Simpleton. That doesn't preclude me from asserting what I believe objective factors might be. Now I'm gonna go back, delete all the other posts of mine from your misguided pissing match and proceed with my day. Good day to you.

Less coffee sweety.

 

[Cyfan1965]

Hope CuJo can use this and light up the tourney. Big Rob too- Kelvin Sampson is such a colossal **** bag it makes TJ not getting it that much worse.

 

[HFCS]

Makes me wonder - has that combo occurred previously in history of Big 12? I suppose it did but without doing intense research no example comes to mind.

I’m pretty sure we had Ejim and Kane and I know we weren’t even 2nd. Not sure if 3rd to 5th.