Conference Realignment

[AllInForISU]

Because theyre a national brand that drives viewers and therefore revenue. They have a century of history with a good chunk of the big 12. They add another close road game for the fans.

Anyone thinking that Nebraska wouldnt be a great add is thinking with their heart and not evaluating it from a business perspective.

If we are going from a business perspective, give me A&M. Number 1 most valuable team according to Forbes.

Neither of those teams are leaving their conference though. Too much money in the Big 10 too much prestige in SEC.

If they were to add, which I will again emphasize I don’t want them too unless necessary, BYU would obviously be one that would love to join a P5 conference I’m sure. NDSU probably doesn’t make sense but I think they would be fairly competitive in football.

 

[bluestarcyclone]

If we are going from a business perspective, give me A&M. Number 1 most valuable team according to Forbes.

Neither of those teams are leaving their conference though. Too much money in the Big 10 too much prestige in SEC.

If they were to add, which I will again emphasize I don’t want them too unless necessary, BYU would obviously be one that would love to join a P5 conference I’m sure. NDSU probably doesn’t make sense but I think they would be fairly competitive in football.

Both of those would be terrible adds.

 

[CYdTracked]

Because theyre a national brand that drives viewers and therefore revenue. They have a century of history with a good chunk of the big 12. They add another close road game for the fans.

Anyone thinking that Nebraska wouldnt be a great add is thinking with their heart and not evaluating it from a business perspective.

Them leaving actually gave us a bigger piece of the pie when it comes to Big 12 revenue sharing. I think you are doing exactly what their fans are doing which is putting Nebraska up on a pedestal like they are still a relevant powerhouse school. I'm fine sticking with 10 teams for now, its worked out pretty well both competitively and financially and I think that over time it has shown that the conferences that were pushing to get to 16 teams basically just watered down their competition level in the process. Just look at the Big 10, Rutgers was a bad choice and I don't give a damn about the NY eyeballs they don't care about Rutgers or Big 10 FB either probably. Maryland at times has been good, and Nebraska has been a pain in the ass too. I don't blame Mizzou for going to the SEC and they have no reason to leave it really either at this point. Colorado probably has some regrets about leaving I would think.

Business wise I think adding 2 completely new schools that are carefully chosen makes more sense then trying to "get the band back together" by letting Nebraska back in. If people want to play them in non-conference for the nostalgia of it I'm fine with doing that. I have been saying for years I would be fine playing Nebraska and Mizzou in non-conference in any sport because geographically the match ups have some appeal.

 

[IASTATE07]

10 teams is fine. 12 could work too if you add the right teams. I would not mind adding Cincinnati and Louisville. Not crazy about adding CO, or AZ schools. Travel is just too far. I would trade Baylor for SMU, Rice or Houston.

Campbell would care about adding Ohio area schools.

 

[DurangoCy]

Arizona & Arizona St. or nobody.

What do we say to the great State of New Mexico when we just jump right over them?

 

[cyfanatic]

I really like the "idea" of a scheduling / tv alliance with the Pac. But only if we benefit monetarily (and obviously we wouldn't agree to something we'd lose money on).

I just think it'd be really cool to have guaranteed Pac games.

I have liked this idea for a long time! And even more...just have one set of officers if you could find someone willing to be fair. That would mean lose the current commissioners and hire someone from outside of either league to get things moving. Is that possible? Not sure? Could the two leagues be run as "divisions"? A cross-over game every football season (we could drop Iowa then which could be good or bad). In basketball we could play 2 or 4 games from the other league (division). I love having a 10 team league but if this were to assure our place at the table I would be OK with it.

 

[cyphoon]

1	Kansas State	104
2	Missouri	103
3	Nebraska	101
4	Kansas	99
5	Oklahoma	85
6	Colorado	65
7	Iowa	64
8	Drake	61
9	Oklahoma State	55
10	Minnesota	23

Amazing that Ok State still trails Drake.

H

 

[AuH2O]

Both of those would be terrible adds.

Agree with you 100% that Nebraska would be good in terms of dollars to the league, like it or not. Disagree though that A&M would be a bad add. They would be great. A&M absolutely brings value to a league even with UT already in it. Tech brings some value. TCU and BU bring nothing of value to the conference in terms of TV, etc. and are just a mouth to feed that benefits from being in a good conference.

If we could have only UT, A&M and Tech you'd have the interest of pretty much every person in Texas interested in college football.

Would love to ditch BU and TCU for Nebraska and A&M. I don't hold grudges.

 

[20eyes]

Pre Larry Scott, I would've been 100% on board. But that guy is a charlatan. Until that conference gets' back to an administration with integrity, I wouldn't even consider them.

Fair point. Larry Scott can eat a bag of dicks.

 

[BMWallace]

One interesting thought in regards to realignment: If the Big 12 Missile Crisis were to happen again, has Iowa State's profile increased enough in the last decade to not be on the outside looking in?

-If the Big 12 were to implode today, the other 4 power conferences would likely go to 16.

-ACC adds ND to get to 15, needs one more​

-Big 10 needs to add 2​

-SEC needs to add 2​

-Pac 12 needs to add 4​

-The AAC will likely take whoever is left​

-The Big 12 schools will likely be packaged as such: Texas and TTU are tied together, OU and OSU are tied together, KU and KState are tied together, BU and TCU are loosely together, WVU and ISU are free to make choiced independently.

-WVU is a natural fit with ACC, easy addition​

-OU and OSU will be targeted by Big 10​

-Texas wants to be the big boy in the room, so they will lean Pac 12 and take Tech with them​

-KU will be targeted (for basketball mostly) by the Pac 12, bringing KState with them​

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That leaves 2 spots in the SEC for Iowa State, Baylor, and TCU, along with all of the AAC schools. Still not a great outlook for the Cyclones, unfortunately. We would likely need a conference to go beyond 16 teams in order to find a landing spot in a power conference.

 

[Dr.bannedman]

lots of dumb people on this website

 

[20eyes]

Agree with you 100% that Nebraska would be good in terms of dollars to the league, like it or not. Disagree though that A&M would be a bad add.

Would love to ditch BU and TCU for Nebraska and A&M. I don't hold grudges.

Any of the defectors coming back is good for business. I just see the AZ schools defection to us as more plausible. And by more plausible I mean a 10% chance vs. a 1% chance.

 

[CYCLNST8]

North Dakota State. Just out of curiosity, why is it a non-starter?

Because they play in a shopping center.

 

[CloneGuy8]

Some may not like this answer, but you do what you need to do to keep Texas and Oklahoma happy. That's how the Big 12 survives.

 

[CYCLNST8]

BYU (football only) is not a bad add. Some of you need to let go of your Mormon hate. Did Brigham Young marry your ex girlfriends or something?

 

[BoomerClone]

10 teams is the perfect number. I think all conferences should realign. Six 10 team conferences. 8 team playoff, conference champs plus 2 at large. Gives the non power 6 a chance if ranked high enough. Of course, I’d like to see the big 12 kick Baylor and pick up someone else. One can dream because this will never happen.

 

[AuH2O]

One interesting thought in regards to realignment: If the Big 12 Missile Crisis were to happen again, has Iowa State's profile increased enough in the last decade to not be on the outside looking in?

-If the Big 12 were to implode today, the other 4 power conferences would likely go to 16.

-ACC adds ND to get to 15, needs one more​

-Big 10 needs to add 2​

-SEC needs to add 2​

-Pac 12 needs to add 4​

-The AAC will likely take whoever is left​

-The Big 12 schools will likely be packaged as such: Texas and TTU are tied together, OU and OSU are tied together, KU and KState are tied together, BU and TCU are loosely together, WVU and ISU are free to make choiced independently.

-WVU is a natural fit with ACC, easy addition​

-OU and OSU will be targeted by Big 10​

-Texas wants to be the big boy in the room, so they will lean Pac 12 and take Tech with them​

-KU will be targeted (for basketball mostly) by the Pac 12, bringing KState with them​

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That leaves 2 spots in the SEC for Iowa State, Baylor, and TCU, along with all of the AAC schools. Still not a great outlook for the Cyclones, unfortunately. We would likely need a conference to go beyond 16 teams in order to find a landing spot in a power conference.

Fortunately the Big12 and its members are in better shape than the Pac and ACC. OU and UT are making SEC/Big 10 neighborhood money while getting to have all the power they want.

 

[Triggermv]

Of the remotely realistic possibilities, I'd take the two Arizona schools and not really anything outside of that. Even if the Huskers wanted back, let them go pound sand.

 

[CyBobby]

10 is the best number. But if I had to pick, I’d want to see WV go, I don’t have anything against them other than they are too far away. Otherwise, keep it the way it is. Baylor can also go.

If WV and Baylor would leave, we would be back to the Big Eight.....I remember when people would say...The Big 8 is GREAT!

 

[Urbandale2013]

One interesting thought in regards to realignment: If the Big 12 Missile Crisis were to happen again, has Iowa State's profile increased enough in the last decade to not be on the outside looking in?

-If the Big 12 were to implode today, the other 4 power conferences would likely go to 16.

-ACC adds ND to get to 15, needs one more​

-Big 10 needs to add 2​

-SEC needs to add 2​

-Pac 12 needs to add 4​

-The AAC will likely take whoever is left​

-The Big 12 schools will likely be packaged as such: Texas and TTU are tied together, OU and OSU are tied together, KU and KState are tied together, BU and TCU are loosely together, WVU and ISU are free to make choiced independently.

-WVU is a natural fit with ACC, easy addition​

-OU and OSU will be targeted by Big 10​

-Texas wants to be the big boy in the room, so they will lean Pac 12 and take Tech with them​

-KU will be targeted (for basketball mostly) by the Pac 12, bringing KState with them​

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That leaves 2 spots in the SEC for Iowa State, Baylor, and TCU, along with all of the AAC schools. Still not a great outlook for the Cyclones, unfortunately. We would likely need a conference to go beyond 16 teams in order to find a landing spot in a power conference.

Zero chance the conferences go to 16 at this point. The super conferences have frankly been a disaster.