We added a championship game, we dont need to water it down with more teams. Unless we can get Rutgers
Conference Realignment
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Add AZ schools or change the ****ing name. Ten teams is great. Being named 12 with 10 teams is ****ing stupid.
I agree 10 teams is ideal for round robin play in college sports. The only thing that would help is having the conferences regionally based so ease of travel and natural rivals.
No offense to WVa but having either Mizzo or Arkansas as options to replace them would be nice. Even though I can't stand Mizzo or Nebby as options..... I know can't have it both ways.
PS, **** Baylor as well.
Go Cyclones
No offense to WVa but having either Mizzo or Arkansas as options to replace them would be nice. Even though I can't stand Mizzo or Nebby as options..... I know can't have it both ways.
PS, **** Baylor as well.
Go Cyclones
Can't get rid of schools, we arent' texas or OU. Could be us someday. While I would like to replace Baylor, kicking them out is a door I don't want opened.
The B1G is terrible in so many ways (what a stupid B-1-G spelling, legends/leaders -- Lord have mercy on their branding stupidity). That is no reason to think someone else can't do the same thing well.
(Many) years ago I remember reading an article that the Big 12 trademarked Big 14 and Big 16. But branding and logic can't always co-exist.
I only remember that they trademarked Big 11 since there was some disagreement about inviting Baylor when they were forming the conference. That was the reason the Big 10 couldn't coopt the moniker when they added Penn State.
10 teams is permanent disadvantage because sports media and typical fans can't do first grade math.
Conference will always be perceived as less than even when we're by far the best in terms of % of teams making the NCAA or Bowl wins.
If the average sports journalist could do simple % there'd be no reason to expand, they REALLY can't do it though.
Honestly it wouldn’t be so bad if Iowa joined the conference. It would give us flexibility to schedule some different games in the non-conference for a change.
This. If there were 6 10 team power conferences, you could expand the playoffs too by virtue of having a play-in game when conference championship games would normally be played. Every power conference would play 9 conference games and 3 non conference games. The 6 conference champions and two at large teams (to allow for the non power conference schools to have a chance) play for one of 4 spots in the playoff. The loser of the game moves on to which ever bowl they get selected for.
The at large team could also be a one loss team from any power conference, but an undefeated smaller school would hopefully get the spot.
Cable revenue is dying quickly. ESPN is cutting everyplace it can. The prior revenue model is colliding with exorbitant escalation in coaching salaries and facility improvements. The only way realignment makes sense now is if somebody gets very creative in ways to monetize programs.
10 teams is perfect. You don't have to follow what every other conference is doing, especially when it's so obviously ****** up.
The Big 12 is the only athletics conference with any cohesion to it, the only one with a true champion, the only one with full round robins in both money sports. It's a real athletics conference, and I'm proud ISU is a member.
The Big 12 is the only athletics conference with any cohesion to it, the only one with a true champion, the only one with full round robins in both money sports. It's a real athletics conference, and I'm proud ISU is a member.
With 4 posts (amost) in a row you'd think I care strongly about this, lol. I don't really. I really like the 10 teams, as long as it can remain viable.
But 16 I think could really be done well -- at least off the top of my head:
Football:
Two 8 team divisions that change every year.
Play the other 7 in your division plus 2 from the other division (I think the math works out).
Because the divisions change, that means (on average) you'll play every team 3 times in 5 years. (Again, I think the math is correct.)
Winner of each division plays in the championship game.
(Alternate would-probably-never-happen -- 4 divisions, 4 team championship bracket. Too easy to tie with only 4 teams in a division.)
Basketball:
I can't quite decide if a single round robin is sufficient. 15 conference games. That would be the "cleanest". I guess the "old" Big 12 did 16 conference games with the 2 divisions. Maybe go with 4 divisions -- home and home within your division? That would make 18 conference games. Could keep the divisions the same every year or mix them up each year (likely aligned with football).
The obvious 16 team championship bracket.
But 16 I think could really be done well -- at least off the top of my head:
Football:
Two 8 team divisions that change every year.
Play the other 7 in your division plus 2 from the other division (I think the math works out).
Because the divisions change, that means (on average) you'll play every team 3 times in 5 years. (Again, I think the math is correct.)
Winner of each division plays in the championship game.
(Alternate would-probably-never-happen -- 4 divisions, 4 team championship bracket. Too easy to tie with only 4 teams in a division.)
Basketball:
I can't quite decide if a single round robin is sufficient. 15 conference games. That would be the "cleanest". I guess the "old" Big 12 did 16 conference games with the 2 divisions. Maybe go with 4 divisions -- home and home within your division? That would make 18 conference games. Could keep the divisions the same every year or mix them up each year (likely aligned with football).
The obvious 16 team championship bracket.
IF expansion benefits us:
See if Mizzou is interested in a return to geographic normalcy first. Financially speaking, they may be interested in slashing travel expenses. Would be nice to have a neighbor again. If that were to happen, I suspect the SEC would move to add UNC and the ACC would replace that slot with WVU- in which case we shouldn't charge an exit fee and bid them a fond farewell with no hard feelings.
If Mizzou were to return, I wouldn't be shocked to see Nebraska swallow their pride and try to join the reunion. Colorado thinks they're a costal elite, so we won't see any interest from them unless the Pac 12 really starts to tank. If we wanted to even things out we could add BYU as football-only or promote Colorado State.
Agree- no more Texas schools & I'd much rather we expanded West.
See if Mizzou is interested in a return to geographic normalcy first. Financially speaking, they may be interested in slashing travel expenses. Would be nice to have a neighbor again. If that were to happen, I suspect the SEC would move to add UNC and the ACC would replace that slot with WVU- in which case we shouldn't charge an exit fee and bid them a fond farewell with no hard feelings.
If Mizzou were to return, I wouldn't be shocked to see Nebraska swallow their pride and try to join the reunion. Colorado thinks they're a costal elite, so we won't see any interest from them unless the Pac 12 really starts to tank. If we wanted to even things out we could add BYU as football-only or promote Colorado State.
Agree- no more Texas schools & I'd much rather we expanded West.
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Unless we contract first I don’t want to add anyone. 10 is the best number at this time imo. If Baylor and TCU would like to go elsewhere and some two school combo out of AZ, ASU, and Colorado wanted to come in to get back to 10 I’d be fine with that.
10 teams is fine. 12 could work too if you add the right teams. I would not mind adding Cincinnati and Louisville. Not crazy about adding CO, or AZ schools. Travel is just too far. I would trade Baylor for SMU, Rice or Houston.
Agree with the first paragraph but not the second one. Of the teams that left the Big 12 Colorado may be the only one I would welcome back but Nebraska and Mizzou can go **** themselves. Nebraska especially is finding out the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. They may benefit more financially for being in the Big 10 but they are just another middle of the pack (if that) school in that conference competition wise now and still living in the 90's if they think their FB program is still considered one of the elite programs. I remember when they joined they thought they were just going to steamroll everyone in FB and be up there yearly with Ohio State and Michigan but lately they have basically been in the same category as Illinois and Purdue in FB.
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