COLUMN: Let's just enjoy the season

[t-noah]

Put a lot of thought into this one. Hope you guys like it.

https://cyclonefanatic.com/2018/08/williams-im-just-going-to-enjoy-the-season/

Really good article Chris and pretty insightful as to our fanbase. We do have a bit of "unhealthy paranoia" at times, often times a 'bad look', looking 'over our shoulders' regularly too. Your example of how our fans already had Campbell as the new OSU Coach w/in the first couple days of that story breaking was good. Another example would be the all the initial complaining about the new uniforms, when the initial jersey pics first came out. That was pretty crazy too.

We are lucky to have a good university, and good coaches who want to be here. Indeed, let's enjoy this season.

 

[oldman]

I'm in the old group (hence Oldman). Truthfully, I don't hate the Hawkeyes, but I do dislike a lot of their fan base. I like beating their team because #1 it's a win for the good guys, and #2 it shuts them the **** up. I'm looking forward to a fun FB season. Nice article CW.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I grew up as a casual fan of both teams but preferred iowa simply because all of my friends liked them. Went to ISU because iowa didnt offer my program of study.

Over the next 4 years I became a die hard clone and a hater of everything hawkeye.

Why? Because iowa fans are jerks. I was approached constantly anytime I wore anything ISU related and heckled.

Iowa fans turned me into a clone fan. I guess maybe I should thank them instead of hating them. Nah, that wouldn't be as fun.

I wasn't a hawk hater until I went with the band to Kinnick stadium.

We had batteries and full cans of beer thrown at us, simply for showing up to play at halftime of a rivalry game. Dudes wanted to come out of the student section and fight us before pregame.
That was before Seneca beat their asses. Then the hostility ramped up. We had to get back to our buses through the parking lots and decided not to play or do any chants to avoid fights.

 

[CycloneVet]

I grew up a Hawk fan and went to vet school in 2000. I went to UNI as an undergrad. I started to follow the Clones in 1998 or so as Coach Mac started turning the corner. I became a diehard Clone in 2002 and coincidently Hawkeye hater the same year. Mostly because of my wife's stupid Hawk relatives giving me a hard time about our 2nd half of 2002. My 1st born got baptized that year and my wife's grandmother gave him a Hawkeyes onesie. When we opened that the room went silent and I said he is never wearing that and we took it back. Long story short being a Cyclone fan isn't easy but the highs have been unbelievable.

 

[Sigmapolis]

I wasn't a hawk hater until I went with the band to Kinnick stadium.

We had batteries and full cans of beer thrown at us, simply for showing up to play at halftime of a rivalry game. Dudes wanted to come out of the student section and fight us before pregame.
That was before Seneca beat their asses. Then the hostility ramped up. We had to get back to our buses through the parking lots and decided not to play or do any chants to avoid fights.

I have all the same beer and belligerence stories from marching band trips to Kinnick in 2006, 2008, and 2010. Never saw us beat them on their field, unfortunately.

I do think I can one-up you here, though...

A few Hawk idiots groped some ISU band women in either 2010 or 2012.

Classy.

Sucks that most of the rest of my family are Hawks -- and the quintessential ones, too, not having gone to college and despite being from Boone County.

 

[AttackOfTheClones]

Yep. Hate to say I’m in the old group, but those 15 losses in a row were brutal. Old raisin face ran up the score and their fans never missed a chance to remind us how bad ISU was.

Why do older fans hate Iowa?
I think it's more extreme loathing of Hayden Fry's condescending, a-holish attitude toward ISU, especially through the 1980's
~ The Tiger Hawk emblem? despise that ugly-ass logo. It reminds me of Fry
~ The put-downs? Hayden chose his words carefully and timely, through the media w/ ISU
As late as 2002? In press box @ Kinnick on radio @ halftime as Iowa dominated ISU in 1st half: "Just like old times!!!" was is comment. The second half shut his trap up, with an amazing comeback w/ Seneca.
As late as 2006. Hayden went nuclear when Dan Mc was fired...'cuz one of his boyz was sh#t-canned, so he trashed ISU and Jamie Pollard publicly

Fry had the media throughout Iowa in his pocket from 1979-present. They will hold a state funeral when he passes

Fans? unfortunately endeared himself to thousands new fans, and ISU grads who crossed over and never returned. The arrogance of Fry trickled down to their fanbase and media

Coaching? Was a great marketer and hired amazing assistants.

 

[dualthreat]

Your forgot those of us who were molested by Uncle Eugene.

THINGS CAN ALWAYS GET WORSE!

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2007-10-13-iowa-state.html

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That was a great homecoming game my junior year.

Colt McCoy was playing catch in the backyard...

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Of all the beat downs we've gone through over the years.. What makes you single out that game?

 

[Clone Nation]

I resent the notion that young folks can't be cynical.

I was an undergraduate from 2005 to 2009.

I saw some bad football in the late McCarney and Chizik era.

I saw some bad and boring basketball under Chewbacca's deadbeat uncle.

Kids these days don't know how bad things can get. They're spoiled with the success under Rhoads and now Campbell, Hoiberg, and Prohm.

I'm 21 right now, and I remember Iowa State being absolutely awful at Football and Basketball from 2006-2011, then we got spoiled by Fred and Rhodes taking us to a couple bowl games.

I grew up hating Iowa but love going to IC for the bars, however, Iowa fans are way more of a **** towards ISU fans.

 

[Sigmapolis]

We've been beaten like that here and there for a long time... What makes you single out that game?

It was my junior year and perhaps the low point of the Chizik era. It was also a gray, cloudy, sad day over what was supposed to be Homecoming.

I also remember this (NSFW)...



...and several other plays like it.

This play...



...is burned into my mind forever.

I was standing in the northwest corner of the field, in the band bleachers. I watched Jordan Shipley get a one-on-one on the outside... break off scrimmage... then our guy fell down on the wet turf... and McCoy hit him in stride and he ran down the field, right in my direction, and I said, "This is going to be a long day. A long, shameful day."

Everybody around me hung their heads in agreement.

Thanks, Uncle Eugene!

Shipley could have walked the 58 yards and never been touched.

 

[CyGuy5]

Even though I am classified under the young fan base, I can honestly say that I could very well identify with all 3. I hate Iowa with a burning passion, and I’ve been kicked in the groin a number of times. That being said, I see no reason Iowa State cannot develop into a contender under both Campbell and Prohm.

 

[CyBobby]

Yep. Hate to say I’m in the old group, but those 15 losses in a row were brutal. Old raisin face ran up the score and their fans never missed a chance to remind us how bad ISU was.

I am with you buddy on the 15 losses in a row.....On the saturdays we played Old Raisin Face I would watch the 1st qtr and then go out and play a round of golf just to keep my sanity..........ISU has never had a good football program in my lifetime with the exception of Earle Bruce his record of being 3 games above 500 in his career points out just how godawful football has been in Ames IA

 

[CyBobby]

We need to come up with better names than old, middle, and young. We could call them Crinerites, McCarneyietes, Rhoadsians, and Campbellites based on when you came of age with ISU football.

Fine with me....Then I would be a Clay Stapletonite.....circa 1962...........and YES I hate the CHOKE EYES.......

 

[CyBobby]

Why do older fans hate Iowa?
I think it's more extreme loathing of Hayden Fry's condescending, a-holish attitude toward ISU, especially through the 1980's
~ The Tiger Hawk emblem? despise that ugly-ass logo. It reminds me of Fry
~ The put-downs? Hayden chose his words carefully and timely, through the media w/ ISU
As late as 2002? In press box @ Kinnick on radio @ halftime as Iowa dominated ISU in 1st half: "Just like old times!!!" was is comment. The second half shut his trap up, with an amazing comeback w/ Seneca.
As late as 2006. Hayden went nuclear when Dan Mc was fired...'cuz one of his boyz was sh#t-canned, so he trashed ISU and Jamie Pollard publicly

Fry had the media throughout Iowa in his pocket from 1979-present. They will hold a state funeral when he passes

Fans? unfortunately endeared himself to thousands new fans, and ISU grads who crossed over and never returned. The arrogance of Fry trickled down to their fanbase and media


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Coaching? Was a great marketer and hired amazing assistants.

I had neighbors who have since moved but both had degrees from ISU and only wore or cheered for thee CHOKE EYES......Thats what LOSING does to alums....esp 15 losses in a row to raisin face......

 

[acoustimac]

A couple of thoughts. First, when you mentioned us older folk you set the cut off date as the horrible 80's. Many of us were around for the best football ISU has ever experienced under Earle Bruce. We know what winning the big games are about and also what it feels like to lose a coach to tOSU. We've been through losses of coaches to "better" opportunities ranging from Tim Floyd (that one hurt me the most) to Fred Hoiberg. We've seen bright new coaches come in. Some succeed and others fail. In the long run, we are and always will be ISU fans. My second comment relates to the "editing" done last week when any thread created to allow the fans to discuss the tOSU issue was deleted quickly. You can encourage the fan base to not panic, but taking away the opportunity to talk and have informed commentary seems a bit controlling. We can handle it. We are adults. We are ISU fans.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Like every summer I can’t wait for the season to get here, but I get pissed about the losses more than I used to. That’s a good thing imo.

 

[scyclonekid]

Nice read thank you, enjoy this up coming season upon us and those young men giving it their all. I’ve been a fan for 30 years now and it’s exciting so don’t let some rumor ******** get yah flustered.

 

[CNECloneFan]

I resent the notion that young folks can't be cynical.

I was an undergraduate from 2005 to 2009.

I saw some bad football in the late McCarney and Chizik era.

I saw some bad and boring basketball under Chewbacca's deadbeat uncle.

Kids these days don't know how bad things can get. They're spoiled with the success under Rhoads and now Campbell, Hoiberg, and Prohm.

Get off my lawn!

 

[Sigmapolis]

Get off my lawn!

 

[theshadow]

Reality is we are in a tough spot to win, similar to the Kansas schools, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, etc. yet add on decades of poor AD work with the football program. There's nothing magical or cursed. A stacked deck and bad management equals failure

The "bad management" finger can be pointed toward Beardshear. The AD needs a president who is either (1) supportive of athletics or (2) smart enough to get out of the way.

For a long time, the big chair in Beardshear was filled by people whose attitude toward athletics ranged from indifference to disdain.

JP has done a lot of great things, but he has also had Geoffroy, Leath and now Wintersteen in his corner. He didn't have to deal with guys like Gordon Eaton and faculty reps who came right out and said that too much emphasis was being put on athletics.

 

[theshadow]

Fan since '84 and I fully expect to return to '84 form any season now.

Not sure I'd pick 1984 as a benchmark for football, but to each his own.