*** COACHING SEARCH THREAD: Thursday, June 4 ***

[sheepplucker]

Who is a "big name coach" to you? Who would you think we have a realistic shot at getting? It's hypothetical.

hypothetical? thats dumb. Hypothetically if the timeong was right we should have a realistic shot at a lot of coaches from the middle of the pack power 5 conferences. But since we don't live in a hypothetical world I don't know. I said before I'm underwhelmed by the list but have no one specific I would throw out there.

 

[RustShack]

Why do people think Otz would leave and feel like he will never be HC? Who's to say he isn't promoted after this coach leaves and he proves himself as an assistant on a winning team?

 

[RubyClone]

Lol.
WBB attendance has nothing to do with JP, and the success of the program is at best static to where it was pre-JP.

And? You said all that matters is MBB and FB.

It's hard to say the overall success of ISU hasn't been on the rise since JP arrived. Even if he wasn't directly responsible for the historic success of every single sport - he sure as hell hasn't gutted them either, has he? Volleyball has been upgraded, softball, soccer, track. Even the WBB program has a nice part of that basketball facility, don't they?

 

[sheepplucker]

Why do people think Otz would leave and feel like he will never be HC? Who's to say he isn't promoted after this coach leaves and he proves himself as an assistant on a winning team?

He might leave if he was brought in thinking he was going to be head coach. From everything I've read that's not the case.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Why do people think Otz would leave and feel like he will never be HC? Who's to say he isn't promoted after this coach leaves and he proves himself as an assistant on a winning team?

So by randomly coming back to a stacked team next year that will "prove" that he's fit to be a HC? This whole "TJ has never won here or been on a winning staff so he's not a very good coach is probably one the Top 5 most ****** up narratives that continues on this site.

 

[CloniesForLife]

Why do people think Otz would leave and feel like he will never be HC? Who's to say he isn't promoted after this coach leaves and he proves himself as an assistant on a winning team?

Because everyone is speculating on everything. It's all just their opinion nobody has any idea how it will actually play out.

 

[roundball]

And? You said all that matters is MBB and FB.

It's hard to say the overall success of ISU hasn't been on the rise since JP arrived. Even if he wasn't directly responsible for every single sport - he sure as hell hasn't gutted them either, has he? Volleyball has been upgraded, softball, soccer, track. Even the WBB program has a nice part of that basketball facility, don't they?

I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that every single program in the Big 12 has been "on the rise" over the past 10 years using the same metrics that many of you judge Pollard by. If you're interested in truly assessing Pollard's performance, you need to look at the counterfactual...would would have happened even without Pollard? Given the massive increase in revenue we've received from the Big 12 and its TV deals, I could argue that Pollard's stature around here is way overblown.

 

[sheepplucker]

But again that might be what they said just to make the coaching search seem legit

 

[MatthiasISU]

Leath just said the process may take 2-3 weeks


If anyone hasn't seen this:
http://thegazette.com/subject/sport...complete-coaching-search-fairly-soon-20150604

 

[Cyclonepride]

WE NEED NEW NEWS TO ARGUE ABOUT!!!:realmad:

 

[HoopsTournament]

Now I really kinda want Otz to get it, and have awesome years in 16-17, 17-18 just to make some people on here look like dumbasses.

Does it really take that?

 

[RubyClone]

I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that every single program in the Big 12 has been "on the rise" over the past 10 years using the same metrics that many of you judge Pollard by. If you're interested in truly assessing Pollard's performance, you need to look at the counterfactual...would would have happened even without Pollard? Given the massive increase in revenue we've received from the Big 12 and its TV deals, I could argue that Pollard's stature around here is way overblown.

What metrics am I using exactly?

 

[roundball]

Leath just said the process may take 2-3 weeks


If anyone hasn't seen this:
http://thegazette.com/subject/sport...complete-coaching-search-fairly-soon-20150604

Oh man, this site will explode if it has to endure 3 weeks of this! Think of all the clickz...let me be the first to accuse the site administrators of working in concert with Leath to increase site traffic and fatten their wallets.

 

[Gunnerclone]

But again that might be what they said just to make the coaching search seem legit

Conspiracy Theorists: JP is so cheap omg we have money he just doesn't want to spend it and TJ is the guy for sure it's all a ruse.

Sane people: Yet here he is paying a national search firm to conduct a nationwide search, expense 5 guys to fly and stay in ATL for a weekend, just to throw a few Cyclone fans off of the trail that he's got a secret deal in place with TJ all along.

Sounds legit.

 

[jahfg]

hypothetical? thats dumb. Hypothetically if the timeong was right we should have a realistic shot at a lot of coaches from the middle of the pack power 5 conferences. But since we don't live in a hypothetical world I don't know. I said before I'm underwhelmed by the list but have no one specific I would throw out there.

Because that's what we want. Coaches from the P5 middle of the pack.

 

[MatthiasISU]

Oh man, this site will explode if it has to endure 3 weeks of this! Think of all the clickz...let me be the first to accuse the site administrators of working in concert with Leath to increase site traffic and fatten their wallets.

He may just be over exaggerating. The gazette dude posted 2-3 weeks on twitter. Didn't really say in that article.

 

[cobraclone71]

Leath just said the process may take 2-3 weeks


If anyone hasn't seen this:
http://thegazette.com/subject/sport...complete-coaching-search-fairly-soon-20150604

This place will have long been burnt to the ground by then.

 

[roundball]

What metrics am I using exactly?

I didn't say you individually, I said "many of you". The ones I've seen commonly mentioned are season ticket sales, revenues, performance in Olympic sports, and facilities construction, among some others I'm probably not thinking of.

 

[rholtgraves]

Leath just said the process may take 2-3 weeks


If anyone hasn't seen this:
http://thegazette.com/subject/sport...complete-coaching-search-fairly-soon-20150604

Good lord. It should not take that long.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Leath just said the process may take 2-3 weeks


If anyone hasn't seen this:
http://thegazette.com/subject/sport...complete-coaching-search-fairly-soon-20150604

Was it somewhere else that he made the 2-3 weeks comment? And no more clicks for DoctheTavernHok

AMES — Iowa State President Steven Leath touted former men’s basketball coach Fred Hoiberg’s accomplishments but added he and Athletics Director Jamie Pollard are working together to find Hoiberg’s replacement.“Fred Hoiberg did a great job for us,” Leath told the Board of Regents. “He’s an Iowa State alum, he elevated the program and he’s the right kind of coach. We’re thrilled that’s he’s getting to realize his main goal, which is to be an NBA coach.
“So Jamie and I are working hard, we will get someone who’s the right fit for Iowa State, and we hope to have that process completed fairly soon.”
Hoiberg, who led Iowa State to four NCAA tournament berths and consecutive Big 12 tournament titles, left the Cyclones this week for the NBA’s Chicago Bulls.
Leath also joked to Northern Iowa President Bill Ruud about UNI basketball coach Ben Jacobson.
“I assured Bill we’re not looking just north of town,” Leath quipped. “We’re going to be good partners.”