CFB Final 4

Committee had to decide which Big Ten team they would take. No way that Bama, Clemson, or Washington should have been left out.

IMO it came down to the fact that Penn State had 2 losses. Losses matter. And one of those losses was a 39 point blowout loss to Michigan. Bad loss because it was a complete blowout.

Washington has only 1 loss and that was to Top 10 team USC.
 
Starting next year, the Big 12 will be the only conference in the country with a TRUE conference champion. Conferences like the B1G are a joke when you don't even come close to playing everyone in your conference. Iowa was one play away from winning it last year without even playing Ohio State.
 
I don't really have a huge problem with Ohio State just because computers probably would have come up with them as well.

But 2 years ago, computers would have definitely had TCU in too, so that doesn't really matter does it?
 
Starting next year, the Big 12 will be the only conference in the country with a TRUE conference champion. Conferences like the B1G are a joke when you don't even come close to playing everyone in your conference. Iowa was one play away from winning it last year without even playing Ohio State.

One True Champion?
 
One True Champion?

Yes, exactly. Starting NEXT year I said. Iowa had a complete joke of a schedule last year and it got them to the title game. That isn't any way to determine a conference champion.

OU played Ohio State this year and Iowa didn't. Explain that. ISU can't escape playing anyone in the Big 12.
 
Starting next year, the Big 12 will be the only conference in the country with a TRUE conference champion. Conferences like the B1G are a joke when you don't even come close to playing everyone in your conference. Iowa was one play away from winning it last year without even playing Ohio State.

I feel like I've heard that somewhere before....
 
Clemson and Washington would not have lost to Iowa. Please.


lol right cause Clemson has looked like world beaters all season

They did just barely escape Troy at home due to a controversial call and 14 point swing in the game.

Washington wouldn't be favored against Ohio state, Michigan, PSU or Wisconsin on a neutral field.

Clemson would be/is underdogs to Michigan and Ohio state. Not sure if they would even be favored against penn state or Wisconsin on a neutral field at this point
 
Yes, exactly. Starting NEXT year I said. Iowa had a complete joke of a schedule last year and it got them to the title game. That isn't any way to determine a conference champion.

OU played Ohio State this year and Iowa didn't. Explain that. ISU can't escape playing anyone in the Big 12.

You say that like it's a scary thing or something.
 
I feel like I've heard that somewhere before....

Yes, you did. But the Big 12 was too stupid to realize their might be a tie at the top of the conference. Next year will settle that. It's not too difficult to figure out.

I just love how the Big 12 gets made fun of because they don't have a conference championship, yet other conference championships are meaningless (Penn State for example), AND we're the only conference that everyone is forced to play everyone else.

Iowa is in the really weak division of the B1G, and doesn't have to play half the teams in the good division every single year. That is just laughable, but the idiotic media (ESPN) doesn't even understand this simple fact.
 
Starting next year, the Big 12 will be the only conference in the country with a TRUE conference champion. Conferences like the B1G are a joke when you don't even come close to playing everyone in your conference. Iowa was one play away from winning it last year without even playing Ohio State.


I like what the Big 12 is doing next year, but they basically did that yesterday as it was, and it was two teams that weren't that great. And if the options for expansion were schools that brought money, the Big 12 would be in the same boat.

The only times ISU was in position to be in the championship were years they avoided the Big 12 south's good teams.

I'll keep repeating this until someone actually gets it: the conference championship was proven irrelevant in 2001 when Nebbie played in the BCS game without playing in a conference championship game, while one-loss Oregon got left out and dominated CO, who drilled Nebbie.

This CFP thing is nothing more than history repeating itself.
 
You say that like it's a scary thing or something.

Since ISU's SOS was tougher than Iowa's, yes. If ISU didn't have to play half the south teams like they used to do, yes, that would be greatly beneficial.
 
Since ISU's SOS was tougher than Iowa's, yes. If ISU didn't have to play half the south teams like they used to do, yes, that would be greatly beneficial.

I agree that they used to benefit, but I can't this year. ISU lost to the teams from the south this year because they didn't make the plays when they needed to.
 
Since ISU's SOS was tougher than Iowa's, yes. If ISU didn't have to play half the south teams like they used to do, yes, that would be greatly beneficial.

My bad, Iowa's SOS is now better than ISU's I believe. It was until Iowa ended the year playing Michigan and a horrible Nebbie team.
 
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Yes, you did. But the Big 12 was too stupid to realize their might be a tie at the top of the conference. Next year will settle that. It's not too difficult to figure out.

I just love how the Big 12 gets made fun of because they don't have a conference championship, yet other conference championships are meaningless (Penn State for example), AND we're the only conference that everyone is forced to play everyone else.

Iowa is in the really weak division of the B1G, and doesn't have to play half the teams in the good division every single year. That is just laughable, but the idiotic media (ESPN) doesn't even understand this simple fact.

Also the Big 12 had a title game forever while the B10...never mattered then.

The Big 12 and Pac played 9 game schedule forever and didn't matter...never heard any mention of it but now that the Big Ten finally plays 9 it gets mentioned all the time vs SEC's 8 games.
 
My bad, Iowa's SOS is now better than ISU's I believe. It was until Iowa ended the year playing Michigan and a horrible Nebbie team.

This was the first season where the Big 12 was truly down in quite some time. Arguments about the Big 12 not being a great football conference in the entire previous decade boil down to the idiotic "a conference that doesn't win the national title isn't good".

We went through a long run where this league was a total meat grinder always being 1, 2 or 3 in overall computer ranking. Last year it let up a little and this year there were lots of wins to be had all around in a true "down" year. But just two years ago the league was still stacked. Will be interesting to see when it bounces back. It never dropped to the depths of the ACC down years where their champion contenders were barely ranked or unranked.