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WRT Iowa - isn't it like 95% of power5 conference teams that are over .500 make it in?

I get their RPI is terrible and they have bad losses, but just the above makes me think they have a very decent chance.


If we had the same profile as Iowa, there would be so many people on here saying Iowa state didn't stand s chance.
 

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If we had the same profile as Iowa, there would be so many people on here saying Iowa state didn't stand s chance.

F'ing right. We had a much much better profile than like 90% of all teams and people were pooping their pants talking about not being in. That was when our RPI was in the low 50's. Lol
 
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The most optimistic experts are saying it will take 3 more wins for Iowa. Very possible in a crappy Big Ten, but I think the "no Big Ten teams in the top 16 of the committee's actual list" speaks volumes about what they think. If your best isn't top 16, it's hard to imagine that you have 8 or 9 of the top 40.

Agree. I think 3 more wins puts them close to making the play-in game but can't say definitively in or out (I'll lean towards in). 4 more wins and they are in for sure in my opinion.
 
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I have a hard time seeing them get 9 teams too, but:
-The ACC isn't getting the 11 that people thought they were
-The SEC is probably looking at 4
-Pac-12 could only have 4 now with California looking to be out
-B12 is looking at a maximum of 6, maybe only 5

The beneficiaries will be the B1G, Big East, and Illinois State/Wichita, because the mid-majors aren't getting anyone else in. In a weak bubble, Illinois and Iowa will outrank Georgia, TCU, GT, Houston. That's who they're going up against.

I'll say ACC gets 10, SEC gets 5 (Arkansas probably locks soon), Pac-12 could be only 4, but good shot at 5, as long as Cal has no more meltdowns like the Utah game. I agree Big 12 may get only 5.
 

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I've just got hope that if we can beat West Virginia we can still lose out and be on the bubble. With young talent like Jackson, though, we should be back for many more years even if we don't make it this time.
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I'll say ACC gets 10, SEC gets 5 (Arkansas probably locks soon), Pac-12 could be only 4, but good shot at 5, as long as Cal has no more meltdowns like the Utah game. I agree Big 12 may get only 5.

Who's the 5th SEC team? UK, Florida, SC, Arkansas are in. Vandy with 15 losses? Georgia with no quality wins? Cal is looking ok only because the bubble is soft, but their resume is awful. I don't think Iowa or Illinois are in yet, but the Hawks would be in my "next four out" and certainly can get in with only 2 more wins. 3 might lock them in. They've beat us, Purdue, and Maryland - all top 35 RPI teams. Only one really bad loss. That's a strong case against teams with 7-11 conference records (possibly TCU, K-State, or TT) or someone like Georgia, BYU, or Houston.
 

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TCU is 6 spots above them (RPI). Houston is 21 above them. Georgia is 22 spots above them. Georgia Tech is the only one below them of that group.

As I've been told by others on this board, RPI isn't the only important metric. Syracuse is considered a lock by some (Lunardi) but their RPI is awful. GT is on the bubble, lots of "first four out" with NO good metrics and an RPI of 93. UNC Wilmington is 33 in the RPI, but no chance of an at-large. Same with UT-Arlington, Nevada, Monmouth. I'm very happy the committee is moving away from only using RPI next year.
 

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Who's the 5th SEC team? UK, Florida, SC, Arkansas are in. Vandy with 15 losses? Georgia with no quality wins? Cal is looking ok only because the bubble is soft, but their resume is awful. I don't think Iowa or Illinois are in yet, but the Hawks would be in my "next four out" and certainly can get in with only 2 more wins. 3 might lock them in. They've beat us, Purdue, and Maryland - all top 35 RPI teams. Only one really bad loss. That's a strong case against teams with 7-11 conference records (possibly TCU, K-State, or TT) or someone like Georgia, BYU, or Houston.

Two more crappy wins? They have 11th place (tied for) Penn State at home (14-16 overall). If they tie Michigan (assuming both win), I think they get the 7 seed and play the 10 seed Ohio State (right now) who is 17-13 overall but on no one's bubble list. Those two aren't doing it. The next game would probably be Wisconsin or Minnesota, so I suppose that one might hold some weight. So I'm setting it at 3 wins minimum for a realistic shot at being in a real conversation about it, and 4 wins to be somewhat likely. Again, not out of the question in that conference where the bad teams are bad and the good teams are questionable.
 

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Who's the 5th SEC team? UK, Florida, SC, Arkansas are in. Vandy with 15 losses? Georgia with no quality wins? Cal is looking ok only because the bubble is soft, but their resume is awful. I don't think Iowa or Illinois are in yet, but the Hawks would be in my "next four out" and certainly can get in with only 2 more wins. 3 might lock them in. They've beat us, Purdue, and Maryland - all top 35 RPI teams. Only one really bad loss. That's a strong case against teams with 7-11 conference records (possibly TCU, K-State, or TT) or someone like Georgia, BYU, or Houston.

They are not getting in with only 2 more wins.