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I kind of agree with you here. The first time he mentioned his migraine was very conveniently timed. But, I tried to listen to it with a position of no thoughts one way or the other and go from what I hear. So to that point, having had migranes in the past and knowing you can essentially shut down because of the pain, I gave him the benefit of the doubt on this one (just this time). I thought he sounded more convincing in the doc, but theres obvious reasons to why that is. My biggest thing, and I've said this before, is I believe what he says he saw and worked with. My biggest hold up is the unknowns that he "saw once or read about". I don't believe he ever went in the ship, I do believe he watched a test run. I don't believe they know the origin of the space crafts or if they have more than one, I do believe that he worked on reverse engineering a form of technology they had no knowledge or experience with. I don't believe he saw a grey alien talking to engineers (whether a doll or real), I do believe he had access to the test flight calendar. And so on and so on. There are always going to be things we can point at to poke holes in his story, and there will always be things we can point at and say "yeah, I can't really explain how he knew that or how he was right". That is why this **** is so fascinating to me lol

Especially when he also was pretty sure they were feeding him ******** at times on purpose.
 

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Ok now you are in my wheelhouse.. Lazar.. this guys story hasn’t changed one bit in 30 years. You try to remember technical details of your life 30 years ago.. when I saw the interview I was taken back by him stuttering with memory at times as I’ve heard him tell his story prob 15 times.. go back and watch his interviews from the 80’s... he told his story while taking a lie detector test as well.. He has no books.. hasn’t made a dime from a movie. But to me he’s just a nerdy guy I believe is telling the truth. He doesn’t come across at all as someone who just made all this up for 30 years.
 

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Especially when he also was pretty sure they were feeding him ******** at times on purpose.
Which totally makes sense, if they do have that type of top secret tech.

To that point, though, his discussion on the way they segment up the different areas of the craft or part for groups to work on was very interesting to me. My first thought was "how do they get anything done?" and then like 30 seconds later he stated how it just halts the scientific process when you discourage discussion and conversation on the matter.
 
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Ok now you are in my wheelhouse.. Lazar.. this guys story hasn’t changed one bit in 30 years. You try to remember technical details of your life 30 years ago.. when I saw the interview I was taken back by him stuttering with memory at times as I’ve heard him tell his story prob 15 times.. go back and watch his interviews from the 80’s... he told his story while taking a lie detector test as well.. He has no books.. hasn’t made a dime from a movie. But to me he’s just a nerdy guy I believe is telling the truth. He doesn’t come across at all as someone who just made all this up for 30 years.
I agree, and I do believe him when he says he does not want to attention that comes with telling his story. Him having to reshape his life for essentially 25 years is real. Him getting blackballed from working in those fields is real. And from what I can tell, he has not been sitting at his home screaming from the top of a metaphorical mountaintop for someone to listen to him for all those years. Most people who are in it for the fame don't just allow the light to fade like that. Who knows though, I may be giving him too much credit.
 

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Every time he described Barry this is all I could think of...

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That was my second thought. Honestly the first face I saw was...
 

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Am I the only one that didn't find him that credible in the Rogan Show either?

Having said that, it's still strange some of the things this guy knew. I do think there are some strange things going on with the government in and near Area 51, but not positive if this Lazar guy is believable or not?
If he was a real threat to these secrets he wouldn't be alive anymore.
 
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Which totally makes sense, if they do have that type of top secret tech.

To that point, though, his discussion on the way they segment up the different areas of the craft or part for groups to work on was very interesting to me. My first thought was "how do they get anything done?" and then like 30 seconds later he stated how it just halts the scientific process when you discourage discussion and conversation on the matter.

Yeah why only 2 guys working on the propulsion. Why not like 12 at the same time and able to freely converse? But when it comes to government, nothing comes as a real surprise if something sounds so stupid it could almost not be true.
 

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It is this or we already have a space force and most of the rest of the military has no knowledge of it. Hope it is good guy tech at least if man made a huge breakthrough in tech.

Could be true. Or even cooler... the ships are us humans from the future, here to make sure we don’t blow up the world or end our civilization before we get out of this Dangerous age.
 
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I guess the part I would like to see more fleshed out is the transition from jet car driver to working in a top secret program. I would also like to know how he was paid. Maybe I just missed these things on Rogan.
 

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Could be true. Or even cooler... the ships are us humans from the future, here to make sure we don’t blow up the world or end our civilization before we get out of this Dangerous age.

This is my theory. We figure all this **** out in the future and then come back to make sure we don't **** with reality before we get it figured out. Cause time is a flat circle.
 

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This is my theory. We figure all this **** out in the future and then come back to make sure we don't **** with reality before we get it figured out. Cause time is a flat circle.

But in order for humanity to get to the point in the future where we developed time travel so that we had the technology to come back, wouldn't that necessitate us surviving this period in the first place and thus negating the need to come back and supervise us in the first place? Unless of course time truly is cyclical and future humans have thus always existed and always traveled back to oversee earlier periods of history then.... oh dear I have gone cross eyed.
 

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But in order for humanity to get to the point in the future where we developed time travel so that we had the technology to come back, wouldn't that necessitate us surviving this period in the first place and thus negating the need to come back and supervise us in the first place? Unless of course time truly is cyclical and future humans have thus always existed and always traveled back to oversee earlier periods of history then.... oh dear I have gone cross eyed.

Or, once we did learn time travel we accidentally ****** up history, changing future events so now monitors are in place to make sure the future survives. We dont' know what is coming in the future. The idea that there is other life out there seems pretty well accepted today, the question is could other life find us. I think it is more likely we advance to the point of space/time travel, and are able to revisit our planet. Maybe it is like tourism in the future. Want to go see what Earth was like in 2004?
 

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As long as one universe survives, who cares about the ones that fail?

On meeting life in the universe, life doesn't travel well in the living form, but tech travels just fine. Hell those model T probes from the '70's are getting beyond the solar system already. Imagine what we could do when we get good at it.
 

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As long as one universe survives, who cares about the ones that fail?

On meeting life in the universe, life doesn't travel well in the living form, but tech travels just fine. Hell those model T probes from the '70's are getting beyond the solar system already. Imagine what we could do when we get good at it.

Right. Would think any advanced civilization traveling would be mechanical based.
 

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I guess the part I would like to see more fleshed out is the transition from jet car driver to working in a top secret program. I would also like to know how he was paid. Maybe I just missed these things on Rogan.

Back then would have been the old paper checks. I never kept pay stubs from back then that is for sure.
 
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Ok now you are in my wheelhouse.. Lazar.. this guys story hasn’t changed one bit in 30 years. You try to remember technical details of your life 30 years ago.. when I saw the interview I was taken back by him stuttering with memory at times as I’ve heard him tell his story prob 15 times.. go back and watch his interviews from the 80’s... he told his story while taking a lie detector test as well.. He has no books.. hasn’t made a dime from a movie. But to me he’s just a nerdy guy I believe is telling the truth. He doesn’t come across at all as someone who just made all this up for 30 years.

Not to say one way or another about Bob, but honestly, if I told you to remember that party you went to 30 years ago, that was OK, but nothing big happened, you would probably have trouble remembering details, if you remember it at all. If I asked you to tell me the story again, of that party you went to 30 years ago, that was the most incredible night of your life and you've been telling that same story for the last 30 years, because it was the greatest thing you'd ever experienced, you'd have a little bit more recollection. The fact that Bob has been telling the same story for the last 30 years is why he remembers it. It's not like he mentioned this 30 years ago, then we never heard from him until now and he's telling the same story.