make each division or conference 10 teams. There should never be a scenario where a school like Iowa, literally dodged all the good teams from the other division in 2015. Everyone goes round robin and plays 9 conference games. It is bogus the SEC only plays 8 and can essentially schedule 3-4 wins in the non-con if they want. Make it mandatory you have to play at least 1 P5 in the non-con. That way teams like Michigan, who played no P5 this year, can get away with an easier schedule.
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Well that's basically a myth. Side from the one November game they schedule. That is BS, yes.
I would think a playoff committee could devise a merit based system that would reward teams for quality wins and quality losses. Why demand teams schedule certain teams? Who decides who will be good in the preseason when scheduling occurs?
It's not at all a myth. The ability to schedule an additional out of conference game which often becomes an additional cupcake. No one can predict if one of those also rans will pop up and be good but the chances are definitely greater when you can handpick an additional G5 or FCS team. An even greater advantage when that extra handpicked team is toward the end of the season so you can add a (often) sure win while everyone else is risking their record against conference teams. We all know that losses at the end of the season are harder to recover from in polls and rankings than losses earlier.
I've done that so many times with The Athletic that I felt guilty and subbed today.
I live in Phoenix, so I heard a lot of rumblings about ASU and U of A. I don't know why the AD and President from ASU were dragging their feet to join the Big 12. The AD is on very thin ice anyway and probably won't be around for the move next year. I think the final nail in the coffin for the Pac 12 was the Apple deal. It was a terrible deal where the money was dependent on how many subscribed.Tremendous read. Well worth signing up.
This article confirms that Arizona was on the cusp of staying in the PAC prior to Oregon/Washington announcing their Big Ten departure.
Yormark was mentally getting ready to move on to Uconn as #14. What a crazy a few hours those were.
Lots more details about the whole ordeal here:
Inside Brett Yormark's yearlong push to get the Big 12 to 16
There were countless twists and turns, but Yormark was never shy about his objective: Boost the Big 12 by any means necessary.theathletic.com
I haven't read the article yet; I will. But why would the teams in the B1G or SEC do this, considering the huge media deals they have, within their respective conferences?Chip Kelly's idea is my new favorite model.
64 P5 teams: 1 division. Everyone is independent. 1 championship
64 G5 teams: 1 division. Everyone is independent. 1 championship
Who would you schedule if you were Iowa State AD?
I'll take a shot at this:
Week 1- FCS
Week 2- Iowa
Week 3- G5
Weeks 4-12- Kansas, K-State, Missouri, Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
But every year I'd replace a few of those teams above to play a game in Texas, Florida, and Ohio or Cali
In my opinion, the bulk of our schedule should be close to home. Sprinkle in a few long road trips to boost our recruiting presence in those areas.
I'll take it a step further. Regular season ends the week before Thanksgiving. 24 team playoff begins Thanksgiving weekend. Top 8 seeds get a bye. 2 games on Thu, 3 Fri, 3 Saturday.
Dec 2nd: Round of 16
Dec 9th: Round of 8
Dec 16: Final Four
NYD: National Championship
I'm hoping for some change, don't get me wrong. But common sense went out the window a while back.
That’s one game
Iowa doesn’t do that. Do they have a tougher schedule than the SEC teams?
They wouldn’t. As long as those two conferences call the shots for everyone else, nothing will change. It’ll only get worse.
Here’s to hoping a higher authority emerges that can change that course
If any team wants to be eligible for CFP they should play 10 Power Conference games.
It is a benefit for ACC and SEC teams to only play 8 conference games if they then only play 1 Power Conference team in their non-con. What's a tougher game- Mizzou, MSU, Gamecocks, Arkansas, etc. or a G5/FCS team?
Quality wins/good losses should be a further filter to select the 12 playoff teams.
It's one game where a Bama, Georgia, etc. can sit injured players without much concern. It's basically a bye week for some starters.
Tougher schedule is a criteria that selection committee/poll needs to incorporate. With the current 4 team playoff there is typically only 5 or 6 teams that come into consideration. With the change to 12 team CFP the difference between teams ranked 8-12ish is less obvious.
I take it you are assuming ISU would end up in the P5? We probably would, but I think it would be very close. A lot closer than most want to admit. We would definitely be on the bubble.Chip Kelly's idea is my new favorite model.
64 P5 teams: 1 division. Everyone is independent. 1 championship
64 G5 teams: 1 division. Everyone is independent. 1 championship
Who would you schedule if you were Iowa State AD?
I'll take a shot at this:
Week 1- FCS
Week 2- Iowa
Week 3- G5
Weeks 4-12- Kansas, K-State, Missouri, Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
But every year I'd replace a few of those teams above to play a game in Texas, Florida, and Ohio or Cali
In my opinion, the bulk of our schedule should be close to home. Sprinkle in a few long road trips to boost our recruiting presence in those areas.
I'll take it a step further. Regular season ends the week before Thanksgiving. 24 team playoff begins Thanksgiving weekend. Top 8 seeds get a bye. 2 games on Thu, 3 Fri, 3 Saturday.
Dec 2nd: Round of 16
Dec 9th: Round of 8
Dec 16: Final Four
NYD: National Championship
It happens if the TV Networks get to the point where adding teams to Big10 and SEC gives them increased nation reach and doesn't dilute what existing Big10/SEC schools make on their media rights.
There are currently 34 teams in those 2 conferences, so the question becomes can they grow to 40, 44 or 48 schools without dilution? Your right, at 64 teams, there is probably dilution of media dollars for the current 34 teams. So a non-starter.
Kelly's idea only works if Congress gets involved or Apple, Amazon, etc. become tier 1 media options that are willing to pay incrementally more than ABC, FOX, CBS, NBC are willing to pay today.
There is no one left other than ND that would increase either conference's national reach.
Geographically I guess there are but in terms of eye balls, marketing money - that's a big fat no.
Sure, Florida State has a good fan base. SEC has Florida. People already watch.
Sure, Clemson has a fan base. SEC has South Carolina, they are already there.
North Carolina? Meh.
Yeah but you can’t let the Big ten swoop in and get them. Would be a defensive move that you absolutely have to do to keep them out of the Southeast.
Cyclonepride
Thought Police
We do not need more basketball teams. The double round robin was awesome. The more teams you add, the more diluted the rivalries become as you play teams less often. 16 teams is already a lot and is going to kill rivalries. Let’s not make it worse.
Cyclonepride
Thought Police
I have enough hate in my heart for more rivalries
I just hate the idea that we’re not going to have every team at Hilton going forward. A season without Kansas and Purple Kansas and that child molester looking cowboy at home just feels empty.
If we’re going to have this many teams, we need divisions to keep home and homes with those traditional rivals.
