I think the initial complaint about Dresser was posted during the meet when it wasn't well known that J Frost was sick. Wondering if the comment was referring to KD going with Paniro over J Frost.
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I know I was upset to not see J Frost out there at the time but then found out he was sick.
The first period of OT is wrestled in neutral and is sudden victory If no one scores in the first period it goes to two tie breaker periods each 30 seconds long. The wrestler who scores the first point in regulation has choice in the 2nd period of OT whether to take neutral , the down or top position or to defer the choice to the other wrestler. Riding time is kept in those periods. If both wrestlers escape but no other points are scored the wrestler with the most riding time wins. Since Block got out in under 3 seconds Paniro would have had to escape in under three seconds or if and when he escaped after the 3 seconds taken Block down to win the match.
Thank you! I thought that was the case (though I didn't know how they determined who got first choice)... but, I didn't know if there as something else at play.
I thought it was a no-brainer to go neutral there. Further more, i agree with deferring so that you know what you need to do in the second :30 period. I think Block would have ridden him the whole :30 at that point of the match.
It only took Paniro 3 seconds to get out in regulation. Obviously, different situation than OT.
Still not sure why you wouldn’t go down right away. Even if he gets rode out nothing really changes as he could let him up right away in the 2nd OT. There was no way he was going to get 2 stalling calls. Either way, it’s tough if you can’t ride someone for more than 3 seconds.
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You’re not sure why he wouldn’t go down after only riding Block for :03?
I have thought about this, and understand that a 3 second escape was difficult to beat, but I would have given PJ the opportunity to beat the 3. I don't think that Block was holding him down for long either way, but he might have just dropped to a leg and held on stalling for the needed time. But if PJ did get away, he still would have the opportunity to get the TD, but likely with less time. I don't think that either call would have been wrong.
I think if he didn’t have enough gas in the tank to ride for more than :03, it’s a stretch to think he could get out any faster. It’s all hypothetical/opinion & that’s mine. I’ll be fine if Jacob wrestles every match at 49 from here on out.
I interpreted what he said as choose down vs defer in the first 30 sec period. If PJ escapes quickly like he did in regulation then Block would have been forced to choose neutral.
I would think that Block would of grabbed an ankle or dropped down on a leg for the 5 second count. It is much easier to ride for 5 seconds when you know that is all you probably need for the win.
I figured ride outs would probably cost Paniro his match and I thought MJ would win his match if they went to ride outs
I figured ride outs would probably cost Paniro his match and I thought MJ would win his match if they went to ride outs
No one to blame for Paniro’s loss, but Paniro.
He could easily have gotten to Block's legs like he did in the 3rd, he just chose to not attempt any real scoring attempts other than that one. And then no real ride attempt in OT was bad
What was funny about PJ was in David's v-log, before the meet footage PJ said he was "ready to die!" For his team and moment....then put out that performance. I thought he meant figuratively, not legitimate mentally. And at the same time, I expected that exact outcome.
Well, I'm going to flip here for just a minute and defend Paniro. I rewatched yesterday and I did see Paniro continually looking for shots. He couldn't get in because of Block's length (similar to Endene vs. Rocky) and as another poster and the commentator mentioned, his straight on shots vs. using angles and anything other than straight leg shot attempts. Still riding with Jacob but I'm not killing Paniro for this.
A couple of Rules Questions -
If in the first Sudden Victory OT a wrestler is taken down to his back can there be a pin for 6 or is it just 3 ?
If in the next two OTs each wrestler escapes in the same time what determines ?
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If in the first Sudden Victory OT a wrestler is taken down to his back can there be a pin for 6 or is it just 3 ?
If in the next two OTs each wrestler escapes in the same time what determines ?
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yes, if he goes straight to his back. In the last scenario it goes back to another 2:00 neutral start.
